Is 2017 The Beginning Of The End Of The Combustion Engine? - GoHaynesvilleShale.com2024-03-29T02:23:08Zhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/forum/topics/is-2017-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-combustion-engine?commentId=2117179%3AComment%3A3646719&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI agree to all, Max, with the…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2017-10-20:2117179:Comment:36468422017-10-20T14:33:32.242ZSkip Peel - Mineral Consultanthttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ilandman
<p>I agree to all, Max, with the exception of the Virtual Fishing. Much of my enjoyment is more related to being out of doors on the lake and less related to how many fish I catch. Which is a very good thing considering that I often don't catch a lot. :-( I don't mind the smelly hands, I have wipes for that. :-) You can always invest in that rural truck rental business but I'd suggest limiting your liability through an LLC.</p>
<p>I agree to all, Max, with the exception of the Virtual Fishing. Much of my enjoyment is more related to being out of doors on the lake and less related to how many fish I catch. Which is a very good thing considering that I often don't catch a lot. :-( I don't mind the smelly hands, I have wipes for that. :-) You can always invest in that rural truck rental business but I'd suggest limiting your liability through an LLC.</p> Skip, you might be able to us…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2017-10-20:2117179:Comment:36468362017-10-20T14:01:13.499ZMaxhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/Max
<p>Skip, you might be able to use your boat as a worm bed, if you still have it by 2028 because you'll be having a lot more fun with your Virtual Fishing system located in your living room. Fish anywhere, anytime, and land that big one from your favorite easy chair. You'll never have smelly fish hands again...</p>
<p>There's a big change coming to the way we get around. It's hard for me to imagine climbing into a driverless car and riding to the store or going fishing, but that's where we're…</p>
<p>Skip, you might be able to use your boat as a worm bed, if you still have it by 2028 because you'll be having a lot more fun with your Virtual Fishing system located in your living room. Fish anywhere, anytime, and land that big one from your favorite easy chair. You'll never have smelly fish hands again...</p>
<p>There's a big change coming to the way we get around. It's hard for me to imagine climbing into a driverless car and riding to the store or going fishing, but that's where we're headed. I can own that car, but more than likely, there will be fleets of renters that will be cheaper to use. Rural living will not be much different from urban. Most of us have our everyday schedules and programming a ride will become common place. Most of us in rural areas will still hold on to our cars and trucks, but when we have to replace those vehicles, we'll be older (or not on Earth anymore) and many of us will give up our love affair with the auto. The ride to work will be part of your work day. Instead of driving and cussing slow pokes, we'll be looking over our email or on the phone. </p>
<p>Etrucks will be some of the first renters. I own a truck now, but I need three trucks. A little one, a mid-sized one, and a big one. Yes, I can rent those vehicles today, but it's a hassle. I'm also "forced" to purchase a big truck and use it for all my needs. When the day comes that I can press an app on my phone and the truck that I need that day drives up, no paperwork, no changing out hitches, and no worries about the darn thing breaking down, then maybe I'll get hip and fall in line with the other sheep. </p> Lyft is now active in Shrevep…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2017-10-20:2117179:Comment:36470032017-10-20T01:17:23.714ZSkip Peel - Mineral Consultanthttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ilandman
<p>Lyft is now active in Shreveport. I just downloaded their app. In New Orleans while out on the town having a food and drink experience, Uber is the only way to go. </p>
<p>Lyft is now active in Shreveport. I just downloaded their app. In New Orleans while out on the town having a food and drink experience, Uber is the only way to go. </p> But will it pull my boat? LO…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2017-10-19:2117179:Comment:36469052017-10-19T21:44:14.540ZSkip Peel - Mineral Consultanthttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ilandman
<p>But will it pull my boat? LOL. Max, I generally agree with your assessment that a goodly portion of younger, urban dwellers will prefer life styles sans auto. There are pretty cool places to live and play where parking a car is a pain, an expense or not viable. I was lucky on my last trip to the Garden District in NO to find a parking spot. And my car remained in that spot the entire trip without moving. Love the streetcars - don't call them trolleys. It is certain that society will…</p>
<p>But will it pull my boat? LOL. Max, I generally agree with your assessment that a goodly portion of younger, urban dwellers will prefer life styles sans auto. There are pretty cool places to live and play where parking a car is a pain, an expense or not viable. I was lucky on my last trip to the Garden District in NO to find a parking spot. And my car remained in that spot the entire trip without moving. Love the streetcars - don't call them trolleys. It is certain that society will change however I think the major changes will be urban/suburban. We'll have to see how Etrucks evolve and whether they are practical for all the various personal uses of rural life.</p>
<p>I expect my next house will have a Tesla Powerwall or some similar residential battery system paired with solar cells.</p> Skip, yes battery tech will h…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2017-10-19:2117179:Comment:36468232017-10-19T21:30:41.311ZMaxhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/Max
<p>Skip, yes battery tech will help but the way our elect. machines work, the system has to be constant. A sink deposit to absorb power spikes will have to be big, and where do you build it? A million cars plugged in will hardly notice anything, except an increase of a volt or two if a spike comes along. Of course, the million cars plugged in was feeding the grid at the moment of the spike, but the technology of the system converts power out to power storage. </p>
<p>The fleet of EV cars in…</p>
<p>Skip, yes battery tech will help but the way our elect. machines work, the system has to be constant. A sink deposit to absorb power spikes will have to be big, and where do you build it? A million cars plugged in will hardly notice anything, except an increase of a volt or two if a spike comes along. Of course, the million cars plugged in was feeding the grid at the moment of the spike, but the technology of the system converts power out to power storage. </p>
<p>The fleet of EV cars in the system will be a big part of making it all work. Our transportation will become a big piece of the pie, helping our energy in the future.</p>
<p>Oh, and if anyone hasn't noticed yet, there will be very few of us by 2028 that will own an automobile of any kind. Why would you? You schedule for a ride and a car shows up without a driver. You tell the car where you want to go, and it says, "please buckle up". No car payments, no insurance, no gas, no license, and a lot better driver than any human... how much? $10 to $20 day. Cheaper if car share. </p> Hey, Max. IMO the solution i…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2017-10-19:2117179:Comment:36469842017-10-19T18:03:22.853ZSkip Peel - Mineral Consultanthttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ilandman
<p>Hey, Max. IMO the solution is storage. As batter technology advances it will smooth out the high and lows in generation output. I am aware of the uses of coal ash you mention from my days in the construction business. I've been out of that line of work for a long time but I now wonder what else was going into the concrete mix with the ash. I haven't looked at the control aspects of individual wind turbine units but suspect that the blades may be feathered like an airplane prop in…</p>
<p>Hey, Max. IMO the solution is storage. As batter technology advances it will smooth out the high and lows in generation output. I am aware of the uses of coal ash you mention from my days in the construction business. I've been out of that line of work for a long time but I now wonder what else was going into the concrete mix with the ash. I haven't looked at the control aspects of individual wind turbine units but suspect that the blades may be feathered like an airplane prop in emergency situations. Bottom line is I believe in the advance of technology and think many current drawbacks or limitations to renewable energy will be solved in the not too distant future. It will be interesting to see how Tesla fares with their battery farms in Australia and Puerto Rico. I think battery technology is getting a lot of attention and funding. Already new processes are being announced almost weekly. Those new processes must prove to be economic and safe but if they keep coming at this rate, some are bound to find a place in the energy net.</p> Hey Skip, I guess the ash pro…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2017-10-19:2117179:Comment:36468122017-10-19T17:40:52.292ZMaxhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/Max
<p>Hey Skip, I guess the ash problem from coal depends on where it's burned and what kind of coal was burned. I worked at some plants in E. Texas and they sold their ash for road construction and a concrete additive. </p>
<p>I think the biggest problem we have today is the Grid. Today's new demands placed on it by solar and wind have made it unreliable in some areas. Some power producers have been forced to pay someone to buy their MW's when there was too much wind blowing. Other's have to…</p>
<p>Hey Skip, I guess the ash problem from coal depends on where it's burned and what kind of coal was burned. I worked at some plants in E. Texas and they sold their ash for road construction and a concrete additive. </p>
<p>I think the biggest problem we have today is the Grid. Today's new demands placed on it by solar and wind have made it unreliable in some areas. Some power producers have been forced to pay someone to buy their MW's when there was too much wind blowing. Other's have to scramble to find enough power as clouds pass over solar panels. </p>
<p>A storm moving through a thousand unit wind farm can ramp up to producing more power than two Nuke's in a mater of minuets. What do you do with all that power? Somebody has to shut down. Cost a lot to shut down a unit, especially a coal unit. </p>
<p>Deregulation has helped bring us to this point, the power producer doesn't have control of his lines anymore and the thing about electricity is that it has to used the moment it's made, can't store it like gas. Going to EV's will help balance the grid and provide more stability. I think we should burn more NG to produce electric power, it will be more efficient than fueling our fleet of cars with NG. </p>
<p>A good read about the state of our electrical system is "The Grid" by Gretchen Bakke. </p> You're welcome, RSV. Current…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2017-10-14:2117179:Comment:36460722017-10-14T02:04:36.476ZSkip Peel - Mineral Consultanthttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ilandman
<p>You're welcome, RSV. Current mileage ranges on a full charge are in the range of 220 to 310 miles for the Tesla 3. The one that goes 310 costs more but if that's what someone needs, it's available. Makes a trip from Shreveport to DFW no problem. Although Tesla's 18 wheeler is still in development, Cummins has an EV version for 2019 delivery. 18 wheelers actually have an advantage in that they can carry more weight, so more battery capacity. The charging stations will be a loss leader. …</p>
<p>You're welcome, RSV. Current mileage ranges on a full charge are in the range of 220 to 310 miles for the Tesla 3. The one that goes 310 costs more but if that's what someone needs, it's available. Makes a trip from Shreveport to DFW no problem. Although Tesla's 18 wheeler is still in development, Cummins has an EV version for 2019 delivery. 18 wheelers actually have an advantage in that they can carry more weight, so more battery capacity. The charging stations will be a loss leader. Just as many truck stops make more money off the things they sell other than gas. I'm not worried about the grid or the generation capacity as EV use will ramp up incrementally and so will generation. I don't know current costs for charging stations but I think they are cheaper and more easily accommodated in existing buildings/parking lots that CNG, Battery technology is unlikely to go into a slump. It has evolved steadily and should continue to do so. EVs don't have to be long haul capable to capture 80+% of the market. I'm 65 and suspect that my next vehicle will be electric in about 4 to 5 years. I'll still have my Ford pickup to haul my boat and go hunting but that will be less than 45 days a year.</p> Thanks Skip. I thought you mi…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2017-10-14:2117179:Comment:36458652017-10-14T01:44:53.413ZRSV2003https://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/RSV2003
Thanks Skip. I thought you might have an answer for the pipes. I stop at Buccees quite often. I haven’t counted, but I’m guessing some of them have maybe 75-80+ gas pumps and its not unusual to have to wait to fill up weekend or week day. I dont know the range on a battery, but if it’s 150-200 miles, those little trips in Texas are gonna take a lot longer than they will with a V8 when you have to shut down for however long it takes to charge batteries. I wonder how many batteries it takes to…
Thanks Skip. I thought you might have an answer for the pipes. I stop at Buccees quite often. I haven’t counted, but I’m guessing some of them have maybe 75-80+ gas pumps and its not unusual to have to wait to fill up weekend or week day. I dont know the range on a battery, but if it’s 150-200 miles, those little trips in Texas are gonna take a lot longer than they will with a V8 when you have to shut down for however long it takes to charge batteries. I wonder how many batteries it takes to power an 18 wheeler hauling freight across the USA? How much do those batteries weigh since that would reduce the amount of freight the truck could haul? A run of the mill chain restaurant may have 40-50 cars on any lunch or evening period. The prices I have seen for the charging stations run from $5K to $50K for the fast chargers. Those hambugers are gonna go way up in price if they put in chargers plus have to spring for the juice. Seems like we hear about brown outs during summer due to the extra load on the elec grid. If we try to charge all vehicles, I really dont think the current grid can handle a lot more strain. So, there will have to be a huge outlay of cash for that. I guess that cost will probably be passed on to the consumer. Converting an internal combustion engine to runon nat gas is easily doable and quite inexpensive compared to the cost of doing away with them and upgrading the power generation as well as the entire grid. It seems like an extra wasted step if we burn gas to generate elec to power the EV when we could just run the current vehicles on nat gas. As you can probably guess I am against the EV for anything other than short hops in town. I just don’t see the EV taking over anytime soon. Certainly not in my lifetime. LOL! 1. Depends on how much…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2017-10-13:2117179:Comment:36457652017-10-13T21:53:16.729ZSkip Peel - Mineral Consultanthttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ilandman
<p>LOL! 1. Depends on how much of the battery capacity has been discharged and the type of charger. Most charging is done at home on batteries that are not highly discharged. 80+% of driving is around town, not long distance travel. 2. You don't convert, you just add the charging station. Most will not be added at service stations. They will be added at restaurants, coffee shops, fast food franchises, etc. The kinds of place you stop anyway on a trip. Fast charging capacity and clean…</p>
<p>LOL! 1. Depends on how much of the battery capacity has been discharged and the type of charger. Most charging is done at home on batteries that are not highly discharged. 80+% of driving is around town, not long distance travel. 2. You don't convert, you just add the charging station. Most will not be added at service stations. They will be added at restaurants, coffee shops, fast food franchises, etc. The kinds of place you stop anyway on a trip. Fast charging capacity and clean restrooms will get any business a crowd. 3. Good question but hard to answer because electric demand for charging car batteries will ramp up over time. Hint: so will new electrical generation capacity. 4. Permits for clean burning, dual cycle natural gas plants are already in the pipeline as coal fired plants become too expensive to run. Hint: the problem with coal goes beyond the cost to generate electricity. What do you do with all the ash that is contaminated with heavy metals and arsenic? There is a cost to dispose of it but wherever you put it, it's still poison. 5. EV costs are coming down so fast that there should be no need for any subsidies or tax breaks by around 2020 according to a number of major auto manufacturers. I expect the major auto companies will make about the same profit on an EV as they do on a passenger car today. 6. You can get all the exhaust rumble you want and be able to customize the sound far beyond what a combustion engine can produce. Of course, it will cost you extra. :-)</p>