The Bloom Box is Coming!
Dis anyone see 60-Minutes report on the Bloom Box...a fuel cell powered by natural gas?
jhh
(CBS) For the past year and a half, several large California corporations have been secretly testing the "Bloom Box," a potentially revolutionary fuel-cell system. Confirming this for the first time, several of the companies report this system is a more efficient, clean, and cost effective way to get electricity than off the power grid.
Lesley Stahl and "60 Minutes" cameras get the first look inside the secretive California company, just days before the Bloom Energy official launch, scheduled for next Wednesday (Feb. 24).
Stahl's report will be broadcast this Sunday, Feb. 21, at 7 p.m. ET/PT.
John Donahoe, CEO of E-bay, confirms Bloom Boxes were installed at his corporate campus nine months ago. The company says the boxes already saved them over $100,000 in electricity bills. "It's been very successful thus far. [The Bloom Boxes] have done what they said they would do," says Donahoe. The five boxes are able to produce five times as much electricity as the 3,248 solar panels that E-bay installed on its campus roofs, says the CEO. "The footprint for Bloom is much more efficient," he tells Stahl.
Google, FedEx, Staples and Walmart are among the first 20 clients Bloom is confirming.
Stahl is the first journalist to be allowed into the Bloom Energy lab and factory where currently one box a day is built. The boxes create electricity by a chemical process that utilizes oxygen and fuel, but involves no combustion. Bloom's founder and CEO, K.R. Sridhar, insists all the materials in the box are cheap and available in abundance. Bloom says each large box - which can power about 100 homes - currently sells for $700-800,000. They hope within five to 10 years to roll out a smaller home version for about $3,000 a unit.
Bloom Energy was the first clean energy start-up Kleiner-Perkins, the Silicon Valley venture capital firm, invested in. They currently invest in about 50 clean tech companies. Sridhar confirms the company has received over $400 million, making it one of the most expensive startups in history.
John Doerr, the Kleiner Perkins partner who invested in Bloom, has high hopes. "The Bloom Box is intended to replace the [electric power] grid for its customer," says Doerr. He thinks existing utility companies should not be threatened or have a problem with Bloom Energy. "The utility companies will see this as a solution.All they need to do is buy Bloom Boxes, put them in the substation for the neighborhood and sell that electricity," he says.
But there is another hurdle says Michael Kanellos, editor-in-chief of the Web site GreenTech Media. Even if Sridhar can mass produce his boxes and sell them cheaply enough, "The problem is then G.E. and Siemens and other conglomerates that can probably do the same thing. They have fuel cell patents," he tells Stahl.
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Lesley Stahl and "60 Minutes" cameras get the first look inside the secretive California company, just days before the Bloom Energy official launch, scheduled for next Wednesday (Feb. 24).
Stahl's report will be broadcast this Sunday, Feb. 21, at 7 p.m. ET/PT.
John Donahoe, CEO of E-bay, confirms Bloom Boxes were installed at his corporate campus nine months ago. The company says the boxes already saved them over $100,000 in electricity bills. "It's been very successful thus far. [The Bloom Boxes] have done what they said they would do," says Donahoe. The five boxes are able to produce five times as much electricity as the 3,248 solar panels that E-bay installed on its campus roofs, says the CEO. "The footprint for Bloom is much more efficient," he tells Stahl.
Google, FedEx, Staples and Walmart are among the first 20 clients Bloom is confirming.
Stahl is the first journalist to be allowed into the Bloom Energy lab and factory where currently one box a day is built. The boxes create electricity by a chemical process that utilizes oxygen and fuel, but involves no combustion. Bloom's founder and CEO, K.R. Sridhar, insists all the materials in the box are cheap and available in abundance. Bloom says each large box - which can power about 100 homes - currently sells for $700-800,000. They hope within five to 10 years to roll out a smaller home version for about $3,000 a unit.
Bloom Energy was the first clean energy start-up Kleiner-Perkins, the Silicon Valley venture capital firm, invested in. They currently invest in about 50 clean tech companies. Sridhar confirms the company has received over $400 million, making it one of the most expensive startups in history.
John Doerr, the Kleiner Perkins partner who invested in Bloom, has high hopes. "The Bloom Box is intended to replace the [electric power] grid for its customer," says Doerr. He thinks existing utility companies should not be threatened or have a problem with Bloom Energy. "The utility companies will see this as a solution.All they need to do is buy Bloom Boxes, put them in the substation for the neighborhood and sell that electricity," he says.
But there is another hurdle says Michael Kanellos, editor-in-chief of the Web site GreenTech Media. Even if Sridhar can mass produce his boxes and sell them cheaply enough, "The problem is then G.E. and Siemens and other conglomerates that can probably do the same thing. They have fuel cell patents," he tells Stahl.
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Permalink Reply by UPITT on
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Skip - I meant to reply to LP and JHH about their thoughts that this device will take away coal. I come obviously from Pennsylvania and coal is a huge business. Now with the Marcellus, the Nat Gas biz is taking off. By the way we have 26 acres to lease in heart of that shale should you have an interest. Not sure you work that market. Anyway, coal is a great fuel and along wiht Nat Gas will be long term winners. Solar, Wind and biomass are a joke. Nuclear has a chance but who wants another 3 mile Island? In other news, Cubic has been doing better. The JV's with GDP and XCO have been a success. Thoughts on this if you get some down time?
http://www.cubicenergyinc.com/QBC%20Corporate%20Presentation%200218...
Thanks Skip!
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Permalink Reply by LP on
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Upitt,
I agree coal is here to stay but it needs to stay where it is...in the earth. Unless there is no other source of energy, in spite of the "influence" of the coal industry, eventually King Coal will be dethroned, whether it's by new technology or bottom line.
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Permalink Reply by L D H on
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Wow! I would buy a Bloom Box today, if I could. I am so tired of our electricity going out every time it snows. The fact that it uses natural gas is just an extra bonus. Be sure and watch the video. This is BIG!
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Permalink Reply by JHH on
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There's a link near the top of this discussion that will take you to the video version of the story. enjoy. jhh
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Permalink Reply by Bacon on
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"The "box" generates its power wirelessly through a combination of oxygen and a fossil fuel - natural gas, bio-gas, etc. It is presently being tested by companies such as Google, WalMart, FedEx and eBay, who have shelled out hundreds of thousands for the "green" machines, the CBS News program reported."
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/tech_guide/2010/02/22/2010-02-22_bloom_e...
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Permalink Reply by JHH on
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I suppose everyone who watched the news program noticed a main component is sand! We have deserts here... but where's the world's largest? North Africa... and in the countries that have a lot of oil. Just thinkin. jhh
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Permalink Reply by Skip Peel - Mineral Consultant on -
Dang, ALongview. There you go out sourcing our sand. LOL! I don't think sand is covered under NAFTA.
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Permalink Reply by Anita Goodson on
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The brain made the statement on the video that it was ocean beach sand, composition must be different
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Permalink Reply by Skip Peel - Mineral Consultant on
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Double Dang, Anita!
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Permalink Reply by ALongview on
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Then I see this as a way out for California! I love those two birds with one stone things.
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