Issues with Natural Gas-Fueled Cars - GoHaynesvilleShale.com2024-03-29T14:29:14Zhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/forum/topics/2117179:Topic:116679?commentId=2117179%3AComment%3A118379&feed=yes&xn_auth=noEthanol is not the answer and…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2008-09-30:2117179:Comment:1384312008-09-30T00:39:43.481ZJack B2https://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/Jack
Ethanol is not the answer and it is not my opine. The planet cannot sustain human existance for the long term when the population reaches 8 billion and we are at 6.5 now. It will take every ounce of available energy to feed the world and burning 700 gallons of fuel to plant, fertalize, harvest, transport to processing, manufacture, ect. just cannot happen. An informative site is the world-o-meter, chcek it out it is an eye opener. Natural gas and methane anhydrite will be the bridge to new…
Ethanol is not the answer and it is not my opine. The planet cannot sustain human existance for the long term when the population reaches 8 billion and we are at 6.5 now. It will take every ounce of available energy to feed the world and burning 700 gallons of fuel to plant, fertalize, harvest, transport to processing, manufacture, ect. just cannot happen. An informative site is the world-o-meter, chcek it out it is an eye opener. Natural gas and methane anhydrite will be the bridge to new energy sources for the long term future. Ethanol is a joke. However, t…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2008-09-30:2117179:Comment:1384162008-09-30T00:19:46.606ZHar C2https://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/Har
Ethanol is a joke. However, there is a farmer who just obtained a grant to grow extraordinarily large sweet potatoes to determine if these potatoes are more efficient than corn. Who knows I might be wrong about the joke.
Ethanol is a joke. However, there is a farmer who just obtained a grant to grow extraordinarily large sweet potatoes to determine if these potatoes are more efficient than corn. Who knows I might be wrong about the joke. You guys down in La. are fort…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2008-09-11:2117179:Comment:1210282008-09-11T15:53:01.352ZWilliam W. Lynnhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/WilliamWLynn
You guys down in La. are fortunate in that you can choose fuel with or without ethanol. Our beloved (Republican) governor decreed that as of<br />
Jan 1 of this year, ALL gasoline sold in Missouri<br />
must have at least 10% ethanol. A small number of corn farmers in NE Missouri are becoming very wealthy as a result of this. The governor didn't say who is going to pay for all the carburetor damage done when the alcohol begins to dissolve<br />
gaskets never intended to be exposed to anything other than…
You guys down in La. are fortunate in that you can choose fuel with or without ethanol. Our beloved (Republican) governor decreed that as of<br />
Jan 1 of this year, ALL gasoline sold in Missouri<br />
must have at least 10% ethanol. A small number of corn farmers in NE Missouri are becoming very wealthy as a result of this. The governor didn't say who is going to pay for all the carburetor damage done when the alcohol begins to dissolve<br />
gaskets never intended to be exposed to anything other than petroleum based fuel. The town of Rogersville, just east of Springfield, is currently in a major legal battle to keep a big ethanol plant from being built. They estimate the water table, already low, will be dropped so low that the town will lose its water supply and all the surrounding farms will dry up for lack of water. And those corn farmers up in NE Missouri just keep getting richer.<br />
I always thought Louisiana has the most corrupt politics anywhere, going all the way back to "Won't you 'hep me?".....yeah, I go back that far.<br />
However, after ten years up here in Missouri, I am convinced that Louisiana politicians are still in the bush league when it comes to corruption. I have goats. Believe it or n…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2008-09-09:2117179:Comment:1185362008-09-09T19:55:52.410ZP.G.https://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/PG
I have goats. Believe it or not, there's a lot of things goats can't or won't eat! They are very picky. Those are mostly myths folks have about them. They will eat what cows won't like brush and weed leaves. But some of those will kill a goat. Cows can eat lower quality hay than goats must have. They can be raised together because they don't compete with each other.
I have goats. Believe it or not, there's a lot of things goats can't or won't eat! They are very picky. Those are mostly myths folks have about them. They will eat what cows won't like brush and weed leaves. But some of those will kill a goat. Cows can eat lower quality hay than goats must have. They can be raised together because they don't compete with each other. See my post above about sugar…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2008-09-09:2117179:Comment:1183792008-09-09T18:10:30.313ZK_Bainhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/KennyBain
See my post above about sugar ethanol. There are plenty of sources for making ethanol besides corn (which is nuts to begin with!!).
See my post above about sugar ethanol. There are plenty of sources for making ethanol besides corn (which is nuts to begin with!!). Amen to that!
My wife &…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2008-09-09:2117179:Comment:1183752008-09-09T18:08:51.601ZK_Bainhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/KennyBain
Amen to that!<br />
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My wife & I hosted an exchange student from Brazil back in 2003. His father worked for a company that was affiliated with Petrobras. He told me then that Brazil would love to supply the USA with sugar ethanol. They are "energy independent" as a result of using / making it. The issue is that we (the USA) impose a tariff on their ethanol to keep it from competing with the American corn farmer's ethanol.<br />
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I really feel that our country should take a long, hard look at the plan…
Amen to that!<br />
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My wife & I hosted an exchange student from Brazil back in 2003. His father worked for a company that was affiliated with Petrobras. He told me then that Brazil would love to supply the USA with sugar ethanol. They are "energy independent" as a result of using / making it. The issue is that we (the USA) impose a tariff on their ethanol to keep it from competing with the American corn farmer's ethanol.<br />
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I really feel that our country should take a long, hard look at the plan good ole' TB Pickens is pushing. NGV's just make sense, but so does buying fuel (sugar ethanol) from friendly countries like Brazil. I'd much rather see us buy from them than the Saudi's. I wouldn't feed to goats!
ht…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2008-09-09:2117179:Comment:1183182008-09-09T17:24:39.849ZP.G.https://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/PG
I wouldn't feed to goats!<br />
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<a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1154432">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1154432</a>
I wouldn't feed to goats!<br />
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<a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1154432">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1154432</a> I was referring to the factor…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2008-09-09:2117179:Comment:1183142008-09-09T17:18:01.246ZP.G.https://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/PG
I was referring to the factory chickens sold at the grocery store. Seems like they don't taste as good as they used too. I'm betting they've change feed rations for economic reasons seeing how high soy has risen too. They may be using corn gluten from the ethanol process rather than soy meal. Maybe they are using some other grain to fatten the birds. Ground corn probably isn't economical anymore.<br />
I used to raise my own range chickens for the table and even those needed to be fattened (corn was…
I was referring to the factory chickens sold at the grocery store. Seems like they don't taste as good as they used too. I'm betting they've change feed rations for economic reasons seeing how high soy has risen too. They may be using corn gluten from the ethanol process rather than soy meal. Maybe they are using some other grain to fatten the birds. Ground corn probably isn't economical anymore.<br />
I used to raise my own range chickens for the table and even those needed to be fattened (corn was best) before slaughter. Taste can be affected by feed. (i learned that the hard way)<br />
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They need to find something other than corn to make ethanol from. Feed prices are ridiculous! Cultivate "Jatropha" plant wo…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2008-09-09:2117179:Comment:1181802008-09-09T15:31:02.930ZRobert Griffin Rhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/RAGriffin
Cultivate "Jatropha" plant world wide for biodiesel fuel. Uses little water and grows on land (and in cracks of rocks) that only goats can survive on. Mexico, West Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, wind farms, pipeline right of way, etc. People cut hay on Interstate rights of way...why not grow plants for biodiesel fuel. Stop putting food (corn) in your gas tank and feed it to the millions of starving people all over the world. Needs research to fully domesticate plant for mass farming and to…
Cultivate "Jatropha" plant world wide for biodiesel fuel. Uses little water and grows on land (and in cracks of rocks) that only goats can survive on. Mexico, West Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, wind farms, pipeline right of way, etc. People cut hay on Interstate rights of way...why not grow plants for biodiesel fuel. Stop putting food (corn) in your gas tank and feed it to the millions of starving people all over the world. Needs research to fully domesticate plant for mass farming and to maximize oil derived from beans.<br />
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"The plant yields more than four times as much fuel per hectare as soybeans, and more than ten times that of maize (corn). "<br />
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<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arid-zone_agriculture">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arid-zone_agriculture</a><br />
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<a href="http://www.orchidsasia.com/jatropha/jat001.htm">http://www.orchidsasia.com/jatropha/jat001.htm</a> You forgot corn gluten meal i…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2008-09-09:2117179:Comment:1180342008-09-09T14:09:11.362ZP.G.https://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/PG
You forgot corn gluten meal is also a good pre-emergent herbicide as well!<br />
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A problem with using corn for ethanol is that it takes nearly as much energy to produce than it produces!<br />
Not to mention that it drives up prices for everything associated with a non-fuel need for corn. Will Big Mac's soon be costing $10 each?<br />
And has anyone noticed that chicken meat doesn't taste like it used too? Seems like it tastes more gamy than it used too. I wonder if that has anything to do with replacing soy…
You forgot corn gluten meal is also a good pre-emergent herbicide as well!<br />
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A problem with using corn for ethanol is that it takes nearly as much energy to produce than it produces!<br />
Not to mention that it drives up prices for everything associated with a non-fuel need for corn. Will Big Mac's soon be costing $10 each?<br />
And has anyone noticed that chicken meat doesn't taste like it used too? Seems like it tastes more gamy than it used too. I wonder if that has anything to do with replacing soy protein with corn protein in the feed rations?