Age of the Earth question for Geologists - GoHaynesvilleShale.com2024-03-28T15:36:48Zhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/forum/topics/2117179:Topic:128846?id=2117179%3ATopic%3A128846&feed=yes&xn_auth=noSometimes I just write things…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2008-09-28:2117179:Comment:1373932008-09-28T16:55:19.133Zwpt9452https://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/WilliamTeague
Sometimes I just write things to see the reaction. I have a good Christian friend that believes the earth is no more than 8,000 years old. I asked him about carbon data testing and he said he doesn't believe in all that scientific evidence. So, truth is what we want it to be until we die and find out something.......or nothing.
Sometimes I just write things to see the reaction. I have a good Christian friend that believes the earth is no more than 8,000 years old. I asked him about carbon data testing and he said he doesn't believe in all that scientific evidence. So, truth is what we want it to be until we die and find out something.......or nothing. Hi:
You are surely not crazy,…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2008-09-28:2117179:Comment:1373522008-09-28T15:51:47.576ZLouzannehttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/DeannaWeaver
Hi:<br />
You are surely not crazy, and I believe as you do.
Hi:<br />
You are surely not crazy, and I believe as you do. Mooncookie is the deep person…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2008-09-28:2117179:Comment:1372102008-09-28T04:56:55.884ZTwo Dogs, Piratehttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ThomasRScarbrock
Mooncookie is the deep person, I am the redneck, we could debate the rights and wrongs of whoever from now on but Quoting those from the past is like Quoting Barney Olfield, for the race that will be run today.
Mooncookie is the deep person, I am the redneck, we could debate the rights and wrongs of whoever from now on but Quoting those from the past is like Quoting Barney Olfield, for the race that will be run today. The simple fact of the matter…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2008-09-28:2117179:Comment:1371992008-09-28T04:11:57.573ZTwo Dogs, Piratehttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ThomasRScarbrock
The simple fact of the matter, of course, is that relativists who assert the truth of<br />
(11) All truth is relative<br />
really want us to believe that (11) is not itself a relative truth (since then it would have no more claims to being true than to being false) but an "absolute" (i.e., an objective) truth. They really want us to believe that all truths other than (11) are relative. But if all truths other than (11) are relative, then (11) is not true after all. Rather, it must be false.<br />
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Don't tell…
The simple fact of the matter, of course, is that relativists who assert the truth of<br />
(11) All truth is relative<br />
really want us to believe that (11) is not itself a relative truth (since then it would have no more claims to being true than to being false) but an "absolute" (i.e., an objective) truth. They really want us to believe that all truths other than (11) are relative. But if all truths other than (11) are relative, then (11) is not true after all. Rather, it must be false.<br />
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Don't tell me that Bigfoot has target 11 stuck on his back? I have believed in Bigfoot since I was a kid, hell I think I saw him at the Boy Scout camp back in the early 60s down on Spring Creek. lbaker:
"I'm not trying to st…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2008-09-28:2117179:Comment:1370992008-09-28T00:02:19.525ZLouzannehttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/DeannaWeaver
lbaker:<br />
"I'm not trying to start a religious argument here - just curious".<br />
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Louzanne:<br />
"My belief is our Creator is behind it all....not matter when it began...<br />
my opinion".
lbaker:<br />
"I'm not trying to start a religious argument here - just curious".<br />
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Louzanne:<br />
"My belief is our Creator is behind it all....not matter when it began...<br />
my opinion". The age of the earth is not a…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2008-09-27:2117179:Comment:1370762008-09-27T22:55:32.956ZGoodas Icanhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/GoodasIcan
The age of the earth is not a matter of scientific fact. People need to be aware just how abstract, shaky and prone to revision the findings of modern cosmology really are. To quote Prof. Wanser:<br />
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‘The sad thing is that the public is so overawed by these things [big bang and long-age cosmologies], just because there is complex maths involved. They don’t realize how much philosophical speculation and imagination is injected along with the maths—these are really stories that are made up.’<br />
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There…
The age of the earth is not a matter of scientific fact. People need to be aware just how abstract, shaky and prone to revision the findings of modern cosmology really are. To quote Prof. Wanser:<br />
<br />
‘The sad thing is that the public is so overawed by these things [big bang and long-age cosmologies], just because there is complex maths involved. They don’t realize how much philosophical speculation and imagination is injected along with the maths—these are really stories that are made up.’<br />
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There is room in true science for young earth creationists. The disagreements are not over scientific facts but rather in the interpretation of scientific facts. Your example of Einstein should be a good reminder that interpretations and explanations of scientific observations can change over time as we gain a deeper understanding of those observations. Newtonian physics was considered established science and seemed to work very well. Einstein came along and showed that Newtonian physics was an incomplete explanation of the scientific observations. What if we were to discover that radioactive decays and the speed of light were not constants through time (i.e. they appear constant in the short term but over a few hundred years they measure change in these 'constants'). There is actually evidence that the speed of light may be slowing down. Of course this is much debated and controversial but we shouldn't be so arrogant as to say that it's scientific fact that the earth is billions of years old. Why would it be hard to believe that a good explanation for oil and gas and various rock layers and the huge fossil record (scientific facts) is the great worldwide flood of Noah's day. Oil and gas do not require time so much as they require temperature and pressure to form. If a cow can create a decent amount of methane in 1 day why would it take millions of years to form natural gas from decaying matter that was rapidly buried in a worldwide flood.<br />
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I guess what I'm trying to say is that we should regard the Genesis account of creation as a possible explanation of the scientific facts that we find in creation. We should also regard evolution over billions of years to be an explanation of the scientific facts and not a scientific fact itself. John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2008-09-27:2117179:Comment:1369992008-09-27T19:34:29.899ZLisahttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/HiItsme
John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the <u>truth</u> and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the <u>truth</u> and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. What about the gnostic gospel…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2008-09-27:2117179:Comment:1369902008-09-27T19:29:43.176Zmooncookiehttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/mooncookie
What about the gnostic gospels?<br />
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<a href="http://www.msmagazine.com/spring2006/mary.asp">http://www.msmagazine.com/spring2006/mary.asp</a><br />
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and then there is the question of whether Mary Mag was ousted by John covered with years of smear campaign...<br />
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<a href="http://www.passionofmarymagdalen.com/pages/Did%20you%20have%20to%20make%20her.html">http://www.passionofmarymagdalen.com/pages/Did%20you%20have%20to%20make%20her.html</a><br />
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Girl Power!
What about the gnostic gospels?<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.msmagazine.com/spring2006/mary.asp">http://www.msmagazine.com/spring2006/mary.asp</a><br />
<br />
and then there is the question of whether Mary Mag was ousted by John covered with years of smear campaign...<br />
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<a href="http://www.passionofmarymagdalen.com/pages/Did%20you%20have%20to%20make%20her.html">http://www.passionofmarymagdalen.com/pages/Did%20you%20have%20to%20make%20her.html</a><br />
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Girl Power! Bad boy..... ;)tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2008-09-27:2117179:Comment:1369832008-09-27T19:20:08.685ZLouzannehttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/DeannaWeaver
Bad boy..... ;)
Bad boy..... ;) So does that mean that Bigfoo…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2008-09-27:2117179:Comment:1369732008-09-27T19:16:40.897ZTwo Dogs, Piratehttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ThomasRScarbrock
So does that mean that Bigfoot is real?
So does that mean that Bigfoot is real?