Jurassic Shale - GoHaynesvilleShale.com2024-03-29T14:05:47Zhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/forum/topics/juraissac-shale?commentId=2117179%3AComment%3A3837607&feed=yes&xn_auth=noDon't be confused. The Hayne…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2019-07-01:2117179:Comment:38376072019-07-01T17:09:45.261ZSkip Peel - Mineral Consultanthttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ilandman
<p>Don't be confused. The Haynesville Shale is the Jurassic shale in question. In fact, Encana formed drilling units for the Haynesville Shale that they designated Jurassic (JUR). There are plenty that you will run across in SONRIS. Over time, all the companies started using HA as the state's preferred formation abbreviation. The Jurassic and the Haynesville shales are one and the same.</p>
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<p>Don't be confused. The Haynesville Shale is the Jurassic shale in question. In fact, Encana formed drilling units for the Haynesville Shale that they designated Jurassic (JUR). There are plenty that you will run across in SONRIS. Over time, all the companies started using HA as the state's preferred formation abbreviation. The Jurassic and the Haynesville shales are one and the same.</p>
<p></p> Is this the same as the "Brow…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2019-07-01:2117179:Comment:38376892019-07-01T17:04:28.561ZGoRickyhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/RichardMFoshee
<p>Is this the same as the "Brown Dense" Smackover - & - where would someone get a log that shows this "Jurassic Shale"??? - Thanks!</p>
<p>Is this the same as the "Brown Dense" Smackover - & - where would someone get a log that shows this "Jurassic Shale"??? - Thanks!</p> Dion, I think you just did. …tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2018-07-15:2117179:Comment:37192032018-07-15T20:54:54.092ZSkip Peel - Mineral Consultanthttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ilandman
<p>Dion, I think you just did. However, in this instance, I think it acceptable to give a toot.</p>
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<p>Dion, I think you just did. However, in this instance, I think it acceptable to give a toot.</p>
<p></p> Most attorneys/law firms now…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2018-07-15:2117179:Comment:37191542018-07-15T20:51:01.780ZSkip Peel - Mineral Consultanthttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ilandman
<p>Most attorneys/law firms now have websites. If O&G/Energy is not listed as an "area of practice", keep looking. The challenge to finding a qualified O&G attorney is that those firms are a small fraction of legal practices and the ones with significant O&G practices often have operating companies as clients. They tend to stick to representing the industry and rarely agree to represent a mineral owner.</p>
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<p>Most attorneys/law firms now have websites. If O&G/Energy is not listed as an "area of practice", keep looking. The challenge to finding a qualified O&G attorney is that those firms are a small fraction of legal practices and the ones with significant O&G practices often have operating companies as clients. They tend to stick to representing the industry and rarely agree to represent a mineral owner.</p>
<p></p> I have found over time many L…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2018-07-14:2117179:Comment:37188352018-07-14T17:10:54.163ZBob Zimmermanhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/BobZimmerman
<p>I have found over time many Louisiana attorneys should not have passed the state bar exam, much less been admitted to law school in the first place. You have to weed them out. JMHO.</p>
<p>(no pun intended with the weed angle)</p>
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<p>I have found over time many Louisiana attorneys should not have passed the state bar exam, much less been admitted to law school in the first place. You have to weed them out. JMHO.</p>
<p>(no pun intended with the weed angle)</p>
<p></p> It is the prerogative of the…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2018-07-14:2117179:Comment:37189202018-07-14T14:57:43.533ZSkip Peel - Mineral Consultanthttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ilandman
<p>It is the prerogative of the mineral owner to have a qualified attorney negotiate on their behalf or to do so themselves with the attorney supplying an appropriate Exhibit page. O&G attorneys that get a lot of leasing work often know the terms that others have received and whether there are multiple companies competing for leases in a particular area. Competition leads to better lease terms.</p>
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<p>It is the prerogative of the mineral owner to have a qualified attorney negotiate on their behalf or to do so themselves with the attorney supplying an appropriate Exhibit page. O&G attorneys that get a lot of leasing work often know the terms that others have received and whether there are multiple companies competing for leases in a particular area. Competition leads to better lease terms.</p>
<p></p> Agree with Skip - getting pro…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2018-07-13:2117179:Comment:37186752018-07-13T17:30:39.094ZAndrewhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/AndrewKeene
<p>Agree with Skip - getting professional advice from a financial planner and oil and gas lawyer is critical. </p>
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<p>If you aren't selling, you are buying. Can you afford to pass on the offer? This must be considered. </p>
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<p>The person receiving the offer should first contemplate if it makes good business sense to them, then if it does they should contact a lawyer to review the proposed paperwork.</p>
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<p>Many lawyers do a major disservice to their clients by talking…</p>
<p>Agree with Skip - getting professional advice from a financial planner and oil and gas lawyer is critical. </p>
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<p>If you aren't selling, you are buying. Can you afford to pass on the offer? This must be considered. </p>
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<p>The person receiving the offer should first contemplate if it makes good business sense to them, then if it does they should contact a lawyer to review the proposed paperwork.</p>
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<p>Many lawyers do a major disservice to their clients by talking them out of selling - its easy advice to give other people but they aren't walking in their shoes and lawyers aren't generally qualified to render financial planning advice. </p> Skip:
Not to toot one's own h…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2018-07-13:2117179:Comment:37184732018-07-13T02:20:40.469ZDion Warr, CPLhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/DionWarr
<p>Skip:</p>
<p>Not to toot one's own horn here, but there's a wonderful blog post that was posted ca. 2009 that seems relevant to your comment...</p>
<p><a href="https://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profiles/blogs/minerals-and-royalty-or-what" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Link</a></p>
<p>Hopefully it sheds a different angle of light on the discussion...</p>
<p>(Oh to be alive when GHS was new...)</p>
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<p>Skip:</p>
<p>Not to toot one's own horn here, but there's a wonderful blog post that was posted ca. 2009 that seems relevant to your comment...</p>
<p><a href="https://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profiles/blogs/minerals-and-royalty-or-what" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Link</a></p>
<p>Hopefully it sheds a different angle of light on the discussion...</p>
<p>(Oh to be alive when GHS was new...)</p>
<p></p> Skip, & kittycatsmama
…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2018-07-12:2117179:Comment:37182152018-07-12T19:43:11.625ZMartinhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/jcmagness
<p>Skip, & kittycatsmama </p>
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<p> I have several leases in Sabine Parish. They are from the early "gold rush days" of the Haynesville Shale . I was fortunate enough to find a good, experienced O & G lawyer in Shreveport. He included depth and cost free clauses in the leases. But, I do not recall him offering any advice on the actual monetary aspects (signing bonus or royalty) of the leases. He left that to me and the landsman to negotiate. The leases were with Chesapeake,…</p>
<p>Skip, & kittycatsmama </p>
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<p> I have several leases in Sabine Parish. They are from the early "gold rush days" of the Haynesville Shale . I was fortunate enough to find a good, experienced O & G lawyer in Shreveport. He included depth and cost free clauses in the leases. But, I do not recall him offering any advice on the actual monetary aspects (signing bonus or royalty) of the leases. He left that to me and the landsman to negotiate. The leases were with Chesapeake, of course. He negotiated all of the other lease terms.</p> The lesson from the early day…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2018-07-12:2117179:Comment:37179902018-07-12T13:48:47.758ZSkip Peel - Mineral Consultanthttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ilandman
<p>The lesson from the early days of the Haynesville land rush is simple and straight forward. Anyone who didn't perform basic due diligence regarding the areas of practice and the experience of an attorney often experienced less than favorable outcomes. As I, and many others, have said over and over on GHS, mineral issues and leasing require an attorney that has an extensive history of practicing mineral law. Anyone who goes out and hires a lawyer or firm that has no meaningful experience…</p>
<p>The lesson from the early days of the Haynesville land rush is simple and straight forward. Anyone who didn't perform basic due diligence regarding the areas of practice and the experience of an attorney often experienced less than favorable outcomes. As I, and many others, have said over and over on GHS, mineral issues and leasing require an attorney that has an extensive history of practicing mineral law. Anyone who goes out and hires a lawyer or firm that has no meaningful experience in that legal specialty is making a mistake. Not any attorney will do. An experienced O&G attorney is required.</p>
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