Land owners beware! This should be illegal. - GoHaynesvilleShale.com2024-03-29T12:15:41Zhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/forum/topics/land-owners-beware-this-should-be-illegal?commentId=2117179%3AComment%3A3066949&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noP.G.,
They will only "show ho…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2013-08-31:2117179:Comment:30669492013-08-31T16:57:31.949ZHenryhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/Henry48
<p>P.G.,</p>
<p>They will only "show how they justify any expenses" if the lease language call for them to show you all relevant info. Otherwise, they are under no obligation to show it, and they likely won't.</p>
<p>P.G.,</p>
<p>They will only "show how they justify any expenses" if the lease language call for them to show you all relevant info. Otherwise, they are under no obligation to show it, and they likely won't.</p> I think I am in a good positi…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2013-08-31:2117179:Comment:30669282013-08-31T15:08:40.778ZG.L. Jenkinshttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/GLJenkins
<p>I think I am in a good position, I only have 40 acres and it is surrounded by homes sitting on 2 or less acres. Not sure what a slant well is but might it be a well drilled from off the property which slants to the property I own.</p>
<p>I think I am in a good position, I only have 40 acres and it is surrounded by homes sitting on 2 or less acres. Not sure what a slant well is but might it be a well drilled from off the property which slants to the property I own.</p> If a landowner holds anything…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2013-08-31:2117179:Comment:30668332013-08-31T15:01:53.962ZKaufmanhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/Kaufman
<p>If a landowner holds anything approaching 10% of the surface and minerals of a large two section unit, the landowner can actually have leverage and influence a unit application or pursuit of a permit. If enough landowners realize this, there will be some begging. It will be reluctant and not outright pleading, but it will be very inconvenient for the arrogant sobs. It pays to not sign, especially with the first few visits. These people are not gods, though all seem to think they are.</p>
<p>If a landowner holds anything approaching 10% of the surface and minerals of a large two section unit, the landowner can actually have leverage and influence a unit application or pursuit of a permit. If enough landowners realize this, there will be some begging. It will be reluctant and not outright pleading, but it will be very inconvenient for the arrogant sobs. It pays to not sign, especially with the first few visits. These people are not gods, though all seem to think they are.</p> Beg?
You better own the whole…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2013-08-31:2117179:Comment:30670092013-08-31T14:53:04.316ZROBERT STEVENShttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ROBERTSTEVENS
<p>Beg?</p>
<p>You better own the whole section or the 2 sections involved in case of a slant well to stop the drilling. The days of 10, 20 or 40 acre well leases are over. This applies to highways, Electric Lines, Pipelines, etc. Still I would rather be a land owner than not. Obama still is working on share the wealth though.</p>
<p>Just look at "Brown Dense Rumors" and see how Oil Companies (Will Drill) handle small acreage owners and the big lease owners. And the Drilling Company…</p>
<p>Beg?</p>
<p>You better own the whole section or the 2 sections involved in case of a slant well to stop the drilling. The days of 10, 20 or 40 acre well leases are over. This applies to highways, Electric Lines, Pipelines, etc. Still I would rather be a land owner than not. Obama still is working on share the wealth though.</p>
<p>Just look at "Brown Dense Rumors" and see how Oil Companies (Will Drill) handle small acreage owners and the big lease owners. And the Drilling Company handles the expense account. </p> It is really a quick draw con…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2013-08-31:2117179:Comment:30669212013-08-31T14:33:02.694ZKaufmanhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/Kaufman
<p>It is really a quick draw contest, who will shoot the bird first, the lessor or lessee. I think from the moment the contact starts, if one is in a position to, fire that finger at the O&G version of Mr. Haney the minute he shows up on your door step. The game is rigged against the land owner.</p>
<p>Even if you are initially happy, things change in a moment. You are a target to be assigned to a "bad cop" operator who is usally a subsidiary to your initial savior. Save the headaches, if…</p>
<p>It is really a quick draw contest, who will shoot the bird first, the lessor or lessee. I think from the moment the contact starts, if one is in a position to, fire that finger at the O&G version of Mr. Haney the minute he shows up on your door step. The game is rigged against the land owner.</p>
<p>Even if you are initially happy, things change in a moment. You are a target to be assigned to a "bad cop" operator who is usally a subsidiary to your initial savior. Save the headaches, if you own the minerals and surface, flip them off.</p> I'm retired, I don't know eno…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2013-08-31:2117179:Comment:30669192013-08-31T14:21:45.789ZG.L. Jenkinshttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/GLJenkins
<p>I'm retired, I don't know enough about the Gas and Oil business but I do know that my house and stuff is paid for and for me to get involved with a bunch of Oil and Gas companies and their Lawyers would be nothing more than an aggravation. They come along every few years and lease the property looking for oil and gas and tell me it's down there and would like to lease for test holes. It's only 40 acres, surrounded by nice country homes so maybe I'll just plant daises and give the oil and gas…</p>
<p>I'm retired, I don't know enough about the Gas and Oil business but I do know that my house and stuff is paid for and for me to get involved with a bunch of Oil and Gas companies and their Lawyers would be nothing more than an aggravation. They come along every few years and lease the property looking for oil and gas and tell me it's down there and would like to lease for test holes. It's only 40 acres, surrounded by nice country homes so maybe I'll just plant daises and give the oil and gas people the finger. </p> Rather than no cost (which op…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2013-08-31:2117179:Comment:30668212013-08-31T13:43:45.881ZP.G.https://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/PG
<p>Rather than no cost (which operators seem to be ignoring) how about putting a max % limit on costs..or sharing of costs..</p>
<p>That would put the burden on the Operator to show how they justify any expenses wouldn't it?</p>
<p>Rather than no cost (which operators seem to be ignoring) how about putting a max % limit on costs..or sharing of costs..</p>
<p>That would put the burden on the Operator to show how they justify any expenses wouldn't it?</p> I noted SWN refusing to comme…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2013-08-31:2117179:Comment:30667542013-08-31T11:45:35.047ZKaufmanhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/Kaufman
<p>I noted SWN refusing to comment on the screwing practices. I think Mr. Jenkins has it right. Make them beg. I cannot imagine anyone giving a petroleum company the right to gouge for 300-400 bucks an acre and the outrageous time allowed on these agreements. </p>
<p>I noted SWN refusing to comment on the screwing practices. I think Mr. Jenkins has it right. Make them beg. I cannot imagine anyone giving a petroleum company the right to gouge for 300-400 bucks an acre and the outrageous time allowed on these agreements. </p> the best way to handle the pr…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2013-08-31:2117179:Comment:30666472013-08-31T02:33:46.816ZG.L. Jenkinshttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/GLJenkins
<p>the best way to handle the problem is not to lease your property. The Joy of having them beg is worth more than any royalty check.</p>
<p>the best way to handle the problem is not to lease your property. The Joy of having them beg is worth more than any royalty check.</p> http://www.reuters.com/articl…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2013-08-31:2117179:Comment:30664552013-08-31T02:10:20.972ZKeithhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/KeithBourg
<p><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/30/chesapeake-marcellus-idUSL2N0GV1UK20130830?feedType=RSS&feedName=governmentFilingsNews&rpc=43">http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/30/chesapeake-marcellus-idUSL2N0GV1UK20130830?feedType=RSS&feedName=governmentFilingsNews&rpc=43</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>It looks like Pennsylvania might TRY to move in the right direction.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/30/chesapeake-marcellus-idUSL2N0GV1UK20130830?feedType=RSS&feedName=governmentFilingsNews&rpc=43">http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/30/chesapeake-marcellus-idUSL2N0GV1UK20130830?feedType=RSS&feedName=governmentFilingsNews&rpc=43</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>It looks like Pennsylvania might TRY to move in the right direction.</p>