Natural Gas price??? - GoHaynesvilleShale.com2024-03-29T12:44:58Zhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/forum/topics/natural-gas-price?commentId=2117179%3AComment%3A1675431&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThis should help, at least in…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2010-12-01:2117179:Comment:16754312010-12-01T17:54:06.214ZDavidhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/David58
This should help, at least in the short-term, to support prices:<br/>
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<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.accuweather.com/winter-weather.asp" target="_blank">Winter Weather</a><br/>
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<p style="text-align:left"><img src="http://sirocco.accuweather.com/adc_images2/english/forecast/temp/400x300/us__temp1to5d.gif"/></p>
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Also <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/40340/accuweathercom-winter-forecast-1.asp" target="_blank">Accuweather's Winter Forecast</a>
This should help, at least in the short-term, to support prices:<br/>
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<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.accuweather.com/winter-weather.asp" target="_blank">Winter Weather</a><br/>
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Also <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/40340/accuweathercom-winter-forecast-1.asp" target="_blank">Accuweather's Winter Forecast</a> Amen!tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2010-12-01:2117179:Comment:16747092010-12-01T02:32:01.948ZOklahomachichttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/shirleysewell
Amen!
Amen! MAYBE?tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2010-12-01:2117179:Comment:16747052010-12-01T02:29:39.296ZOklahomachichttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/shirleysewell
MAYBE?
MAYBE? MM #21 is now flowingtag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2010-11-29:2117179:Comment:16720462010-11-29T03:55:05.441Zmoondawghttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/moondawg
MM #21 is now flowing
MM #21 is now flowing I really can't remember what…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2010-11-25:2117179:Comment:16690772010-11-25T02:22:59.218Zbenny688https://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/SteveRitchey
I really can't remember what the years were, but when my ETXIndGas service switched to Reliant I started getting huge bills. I just paid them without protest since ng was rising at the time.<br />
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Two years later I received a check from Reliant for about $4K to reimburse the illegal overcharges.<br />
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GLTA
I really can't remember what the years were, but when my ETXIndGas service switched to Reliant I started getting huge bills. I just paid them without protest since ng was rising at the time.<br />
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Two years later I received a check from Reliant for about $4K to reimburse the illegal overcharges.<br />
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GLTA VSC, is the weather you're ge…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2010-11-17:2117179:Comment:16580722010-11-17T23:59:46.877ZParkdotahttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/parkdota
VSC, is the weather you're getting normal for this time of year?
VSC, is the weather you're getting normal for this time of year? I live in the Pacific Northwe…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2010-11-17:2117179:Comment:16580222010-11-17T23:07:15.492ZVSC DeSoto Southhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ValerieS
I live in the Pacific Northwest, the prediction for the cold coming the 3rd week of November was correct. It is officially here.
I live in the Pacific Northwest, the prediction for the cold coming the 3rd week of November was correct. It is officially here. Hi P.G.,
Yes you are absolute…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2010-11-12:2117179:Comment:16496132010-11-12T19:23:24.777ZRobert Dukehttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/RobertDuke
Hi P.G.,<br />
Yes you are absolutely right, and the numbers on distribution cost have to be compared to 2000 wellhead prices. I actually took a quick peek at those - looked to be in the around $3-$4 range, Henry Hub, roughly (very quick look, don't hold me to extreme accuracy). I don't know what inflation since 2000 is, but since the early 90's, I think it is appreciable, so that muddies the water a bit. But if you take the fact that the gas prices are about the same as now, allowing for a little…
Hi P.G.,<br />
Yes you are absolutely right, and the numbers on distribution cost have to be compared to 2000 wellhead prices. I actually took a quick peek at those - looked to be in the around $3-$4 range, Henry Hub, roughly (very quick look, don't hold me to extreme accuracy). I don't know what inflation since 2000 is, but since the early 90's, I think it is appreciable, so that muddies the water a bit. But if you take the fact that the gas prices are about the same as now, allowing for a little inflation and assuming we should be getting $4-$5 pretty soon, not $3-$4, it all seems sort of consistent; the article is not saying that the distributors are guaranteed those percentages, that is just what they got against 2000 gas prices. My final comments were meant to allude to the fact that I think public utilities are a bit of a racket, and not all that competitive, though to be fair I have not researched this point to any great extent; I just know in the past that utilities dividends were likely to be good. My personal experience is in the computer business as well as biosciences; in working for various major computer companies in the past, I was always amazed at how poorly AT&T could compete when they had to; to me it seemed they were used to being a protected utility, essentially. Just my impression. So for a question, what was t…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2010-11-12:2117179:Comment:16495862010-11-12T19:05:47.938ZP.G.https://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/PG
So for a question, what was the well head price in 2000? I don't see how a set percentage would be accurate as well head prices rose. I mean I don't see it would be any more expensive to distribute $2 well head gas than say $6 or $10 well head price gas.. It would seem that as prices at the well head increased, the cost percentages of the total price would fall.<br></br> The pipes don't know how much the gas it's transporting costs..
Considering they are marking up $3.50 well head price gas $300%…
So for a question, what was the well head price in 2000? I don't see how a set percentage would be accurate as well head prices rose. I mean I don't see it would be any more expensive to distribute $2 well head gas than say $6 or $10 well head price gas.. It would seem that as prices at the well head increased, the cost percentages of the total price would fall.<br/> The pipes don't know how much the gas it's transporting costs..
Considering they are marking up $3.50 well head price gas $300% or so, I'd hate to think they could mark up $6 gas to $18, or $10 gas to $30! Someone would be making out like bandits! Costs to distribute should be fixed costs even if expensive. Okay, I could not quite let t…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2010-11-12:2117179:Comment:16495242010-11-12T18:29:03.946ZRobert Dukehttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/RobertDuke
Okay, I could not quite let this go yet; the next thing I came across, though, sort of supports Les' assertion that distribution is expensive (or maybe sanctioned to be highly profitable - I am not sure which yet). I found a doc from around 2000 discussing natural gas pricing breakdown, the doc is from the UN but is discussing the US natural gas market. To quote:<br />
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"In general, the main components of natural gas price are:<br />
- wellhead price (the cost of natural gas itself or commodity cost)<br />
-…
Okay, I could not quite let this go yet; the next thing I came across, though, sort of supports Les' assertion that distribution is expensive (or maybe sanctioned to be highly profitable - I am not sure which yet). I found a doc from around 2000 discussing natural gas pricing breakdown, the doc is from the UN but is discussing the US natural gas market. To quote:<br />
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"In general, the main components of natural gas price are:<br />
- wellhead price (the cost of natural gas itself or commodity cost)<br />
- long-distance transportation cost<br />
- local distribution cost<br />
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In North America, wellhead prices were the first to be deregulated. Transportation costs are still regulated by National Energy Boards, while local regulatory boards regulate local distribution costs.<br />
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According to EIA, in 2000 wellhead price represented 34% of residential natural gas price, while transport accounted for 19% and distribution to customers 47%. The largest share of the final price is made up by distribution costs. As most large industrial and commercial gas users tend to buy gas from producers or market makers, they reduce their price considerably."<br />
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For those interested, the link is:<br />
<a href="http://unctad.org/infocomm/anglais/gas/prices.htm" target="_blank">http://unctad.org/infocomm/anglais/gas/prices.htm</a><br />
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Probably some plowing around on the US natural gas-related govt and industry web sites would be even more informative. I seem to remember investing in utilities stocks in the past due to the good dividend returns, but I spend a lot more time thinking about tech than money...