Natural Gas Trucks on the market by the end of this year - GoHaynesvilleShale.com2024-03-28T18:38:29Zhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/forum/topics/natural-gas-trucks-on-the-market-by-the-end-of-this-year?commentId=2117179%3AComment%3A2442997&feed=yes&xn_auth=noPRAYING FOR A DRASTIC CHANGE…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2012-03-11:2117179:Comment:24457902012-03-11T16:15:25.963ZRozzyhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/Rozzy
<p>PRAYING FOR A DRASTIC CHANGE IN NOVEMBER!!!!!!!!!!! Folks this is important.</p>
<p>PRAYING FOR A DRASTIC CHANGE IN NOVEMBER!!!!!!!!!!! Folks this is important.</p> Ben, natural gas generally co…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2012-03-10:2117179:Comment:24447012012-03-10T16:34:40.313ZLes Bamburghttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/LesB
<p>Ben, natural gas generally contains less than 1% propane and over 95% methane. You can check the current gas composition of most major interstate gas pipelines by going to their websites.</p>
<p>Ben, natural gas generally contains less than 1% propane and over 95% methane. You can check the current gas composition of most major interstate gas pipelines by going to their websites.</p> A no brainer for investors.tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2012-03-10:2117179:Comment:24445812012-03-10T15:10:13.667Zjeffhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/jeff224
<p>A no brainer for investors.</p>
<p>A no brainer for investors.</p> For reference light duty vehi…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2012-03-10:2117179:Comment:24446822012-03-10T15:08:31.871ZLes Bamburghttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/LesB
<p>For reference light duty vehicles such as cars and passenger trucks burn compressed natural gas (CNG) while large heavy duty trucks can burn either CNG or liquified natural gas (LNG).</p>
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<p>Come to Long Beach in May and you will see example of both types of vehicles.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.actexpo.com/">http://www.actexpo.com/</a></p>
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<p>For reference light duty vehicles such as cars and passenger trucks burn compressed natural gas (CNG) while large heavy duty trucks can burn either CNG or liquified natural gas (LNG).</p>
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<p>Come to Long Beach in May and you will see example of both types of vehicles.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.actexpo.com/">http://www.actexpo.com/</a></p>
<p> </p> Dbob, the pretax wholesale pr…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2012-03-10:2117179:Comment:24444012012-03-10T15:02:21.702ZLes Bamburghttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/LesB
<p>Dbob, the pretax wholesale price of propane is ~ 50% of crude oil but normally is ~ 70% of crude oil. Of course the retail price is well above $2.00 per gallon.</p>
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<p>Motor gasoline has an average energy content of 124,238 Btu per gallon while propane has an energy content of 90,875 Btu per gallon. </p>
<p>Dbob, the pretax wholesale price of propane is ~ 50% of crude oil but normally is ~ 70% of crude oil. Of course the retail price is well above $2.00 per gallon.</p>
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<p>Motor gasoline has an average energy content of 124,238 Btu per gallon while propane has an energy content of 90,875 Btu per gallon. </p> They wont be able to build th…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2012-03-10:2117179:Comment:24443982012-03-10T14:59:02.472Zjeffhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/jeff224
<p>They wont be able to build them fast enough. Its going to catch on in a big way..</p>
<p>They wont be able to build them fast enough. Its going to catch on in a big way..</p> WO, propane can be recovered…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2012-03-10:2117179:Comment:24445732012-03-10T14:53:09.063ZLes Bamburghttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/LesB
<p>WO, propane can be recovered from produced natural gas in a natural gas processing plant as part of the natural gas liquids. The NGL's are then sent to a fractionator to split it into products such as commercial grade propane.</p>
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<p>Gas liquids are also recovered from crude oil and condensate in an oil refinery so can also be a source of propane.</p>
<p>WO, propane can be recovered from produced natural gas in a natural gas processing plant as part of the natural gas liquids. The NGL's are then sent to a fractionator to split it into products such as commercial grade propane.</p>
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<p>Gas liquids are also recovered from crude oil and condensate in an oil refinery so can also be a source of propane.</p> Propane is removed from field…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2012-03-10:2117179:Comment:24446622012-03-10T14:10:31.393Zdbobhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/dbob
<p>Propane is removed from field gas at gas processing plants, and has a much higher BTU content than pipeline quality natural gas. It is also useful as a feedstock for various petrochemical manufacturing processes, and as a result I think is similar in cost to gasoline. In a properly tuned engine, it does burn cleaner than gasoline. I think a lot of the propane vehicles folks remember were from the pre-efi days, and my recollection is that they didn't perform well in cold weather due to…</p>
<p>Propane is removed from field gas at gas processing plants, and has a much higher BTU content than pipeline quality natural gas. It is also useful as a feedstock for various petrochemical manufacturing processes, and as a result I think is similar in cost to gasoline. In a properly tuned engine, it does burn cleaner than gasoline. I think a lot of the propane vehicles folks remember were from the pre-efi days, and my recollection is that they didn't perform well in cold weather due to liquification of the propane. Additionally, the engine tuning was a bit problematic. Modern oxygen sensors and fuel computers eliminate most of these issues. </p> Look up natural gas compared…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2012-03-10:2117179:Comment:24443342012-03-10T04:59:26.861ZBen J. Schrammhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/BenJSchramm
<p>Look up natural gas compared to propane on ASK.com and you will find out that Natural Gas is 20% propane. Propane has almost twice as many BTU as Natural Gas.</p>
<p> An engine run on Propane fuel will go at least twice as long between oil changes as a gas fueled engine.</p>
<p>Look up natural gas compared to propane on ASK.com and you will find out that Natural Gas is 20% propane. Propane has almost twice as many BTU as Natural Gas.</p>
<p> An engine run on Propane fuel will go at least twice as long between oil changes as a gas fueled engine.</p> I think TxDOT has been using…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2012-03-09:2117179:Comment:24435262012-03-09T20:20:07.581ZJHHhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/JackHodges
<p>I think TxDOT has been using LNG or compressed gas in their pickups for years... maybe it is propane. Not sure where they are on this today. They had fillin station at most of their district offices... at least in the big cities. jhh</p>
<p>I think TxDOT has been using LNG or compressed gas in their pickups for years... maybe it is propane. Not sure where they are on this today. They had fillin station at most of their district offices... at least in the big cities. jhh</p>