New York Times article refers to shale gas drilling as a "giant ponzi scheme". - GoHaynesvilleShale.com2024-03-28T11:00:31Zhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/forum/topics/new-york-times-article-refers?commentId=2117179%3AComment%3A1964877&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHBP, how true. And might I ad…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2011-07-22:2117179:Comment:20025952011-07-22T01:08:38.540ZKat Bloomfieldhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/Caliente
HBP, how true. And might I add that other than energy, including hydrocarbons, what else is our nation manufacturing? Nada! It seems in the best interest of all that its time to focus on using our natural resources here and now to fuel local light manufacturing, transportation, and energy needs of office compounds, neighborhoods, shopping centers,etc. AND development of alternative fuel facilities. In short, dont we need an active energy policy that makes sense now and also is forward looking?
HBP, how true. And might I add that other than energy, including hydrocarbons, what else is our nation manufacturing? Nada! It seems in the best interest of all that its time to focus on using our natural resources here and now to fuel local light manufacturing, transportation, and energy needs of office compounds, neighborhoods, shopping centers,etc. AND development of alternative fuel facilities. In short, dont we need an active energy policy that makes sense now and also is forward looking? just supplying information..n…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2011-07-21:2117179:Comment:20020042011-07-21T19:59:49.285ZRBHhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/RBH
just supplying information..not taking a position
just supplying information..not taking a position Whats worth looking into Ed?tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2011-07-09:2117179:Comment:19830972011-07-09T21:49:34.509ZTwo Dogs, Piratehttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ThomasRScarbrock
Whats worth looking into Ed?
Whats worth looking into Ed? What does politics have to do…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2011-07-09:2117179:Comment:19830772011-07-09T21:33:57.338ZEdwin Dunlaphttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/EdwinDunlap
<h6>What does politics have to do with it? It's something worth looking into.</h6>
<h6>What does politics have to do with it? It's something worth looking into.</h6> Ms. sesport ll,
I refuse to d…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2011-07-08:2117179:Comment:19806542011-07-08T04:08:25.297ZBirdDawg, plain ole' idiothttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/BirdDawg
<p>Ms. sesport ll,</p>
<p>I refuse to debate this with you. I would rather remain friends.</p>
<p>I hope you are doing well.</p>
<p>Ms. sesport ll,</p>
<p>I refuse to debate this with you. I would rather remain friends.</p>
<p>I hope you are doing well.</p> RBH,
Who cares? You?tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2011-07-08:2117179:Comment:19804072011-07-08T01:27:59.846ZBirdDawg, plain ole' idiothttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/BirdDawg
<p>RBH,</p>
<p>Who cares? You?</p>
<p>RBH,</p>
<p>Who cares? You?</p> http://www.scribd.com/doc/588…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2011-07-08:2117179:Comment:19802952011-07-08T00:14:34.945ZRBHhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/RBH
<p><a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/58884757/NYT-Shale-Gas-Bubble-Emails-v2">http://www.scribd.com/doc/58884757/NYT-Shale-Gas-Bubble-Emails-v2</a></p>
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<p>THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THE 487 PAGES OF EMAILS AND INFORMATION THAT WAS SAID TO BE THE BASIS OF THE ARTICLES</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/58884757/NYT-Shale-Gas-Bubble-Emails-v2">http://www.scribd.com/doc/58884757/NYT-Shale-Gas-Bubble-Emails-v2</a></p>
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<p>THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THE 487 PAGES OF EMAILS AND INFORMATION THAT WAS SAID TO BE THE BASIS OF THE ARTICLES</p> There is ALWAYS motive when…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2011-07-02:2117179:Comment:19721762011-07-02T00:04:55.495Zkittycatmamahttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/kittycatmama532
<p>There is ALWAYS motive when an organization attacks an industry. Someone big doesn't want nat gas to succeed and is throwing stumbling blocks in its way.</p>
<p>What the NYT didn't say about Mr. Urbina:</p>
<p><a href="http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/2011/06/what-times-didnt-tell-you-about-ian-urbina">http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/2011/06/what-times-didnt-tell-you-about-ian-urbina</a></p>
<p>There is ALWAYS motive when an organization attacks an industry. Someone big doesn't want nat gas to succeed and is throwing stumbling blocks in its way.</p>
<p>What the NYT didn't say about Mr. Urbina:</p>
<p><a href="http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/2011/06/what-times-didnt-tell-you-about-ian-urbina">http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/2011/06/what-times-didnt-tell-you-about-ian-urbina</a></p> Phil, the words "New York Ti…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2011-07-01:2117179:Comment:19720882011-07-01T21:45:18.147Zrobert mintonhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/robertminton
<p>Phil, the words "New York Times" denote the direct password to the planet Mars! Credibility is a word totally ubknown to that pretense for a newspaper. They do write good/poor fairy tales.</p>
<p>Phil, the words "New York Times" denote the direct password to the planet Mars! Credibility is a word totally ubknown to that pretense for a newspaper. They do write good/poor fairy tales.</p> good catch on the author,…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2011-07-01:2117179:Comment:19712992011-07-01T02:34:55.701Zessayhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/essay
good catch on the author, i didn't recognize his name, so i googled him.<br></br>
<div class="pane-node-title"><h1>What the Times didn't tell you about Ian Urbina</h1>
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good catch on the author, i didn't recognize his name, so i googled him.<br/>
<div class="pane-node-title"><h1>What the Times didn't tell you about Ian Urbina</h1>
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<div class="content field-field-body"><span class="BodyCopy">You're Ian Urbina, a senior New York Times reporter. In February and March, you write that hydraulic fracturing, a method of natural gas extraction, is contaminating Pennsylvania drinking water. Your accusations are disproved by government tests.</span><p><span class="BodyCopy">So you write a three-part series saying that shale gas production is "inherently unprofitable" and a giant Ponzi scheme, as well as loosely regulated by the Securities and Exchange Commission.</span></p>
<p><span class="BodyCopy">No matter that many emails you cite are two years old, that two of your supposedly objective sources are environmental activists, that profit-maximizing companies are investing billions of dollars in shale gas.</span></p>
<p><span class="BodyCopy">Last week, the Times ran Urbina's three-part series on the bullish outlook for natural gas production in the United States, questioning whether industry officials and analysts are too optimistic.</span></p>
<p><span class="BodyCopy">The New York Department of Environmental Conservation will soon issue a new report that will decide whether New York state will allow hydrofracturing. Is the Times' series meant to nudge New York toward a negative decision?</span></p>
<p><span class="BodyCopy">These headlines want to make you call your broker and sell. They read "Insiders Sound an Alarm Amid a Natural Gas Rush," "Behind Veneer, Doubt on Future of Natural Gas," and "SEC Shift Leads to Worries of Overestimation of Reserves."</span></p>
<p><span class="BodyCopy">Yet one source, Art Berman, described as "a Houston-based geologist" who said "the shale gas revolution is being oversold" is a board member of the Association for the Study of Peak Oil and Gas, which promotes "cooperative initiatives in an era of depleting petroleum resources."</span></p>
<p><span class="BodyCopy">On April 1, at Cornell University, Berman proposed getting rid of private cars and replacing them with public transportation.</span></p>
<p><span class="BodyCopy">Another source, Deborah Rogers, is described as "a member of the advisory committee of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas."</span></p>
<p><span class="BodyCopy">Left unsaid is that she is also a steering committee member of the Oil and Gas Accountability Project, which is working to ban hydraulic fracturing.</span></p>
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<span class="BodyCopy">"Those who demonize it (shale gas) are demonizing our clean energy independence."</span><br/>
<p><br/>Read more at the Washington Examiner: <a rel="nofollow" style="color: #003399;" href="http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/2011/06/what-times-didnt-tell-you-about-ian-urbina#ixzz1QohXTEeT">http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/2011/06/what-times...</a><br/><br/>(Story continues in link)</p>
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<span class="BodyCopy"> </span>Praying to the false idol of "green energy" and the "planned economy" only costs us jobs, to the tune of about 2 for every 1 "created" by the government. Keep on keepin' on, Washington. We'll get us a nice reset at some point, this Keynesian experiment won't last forever. Look to Greece, friends... they may have successfully papered over the problem again for now but the systemic causes for the crisis are still lurking just under the surface.<br/>