PAYMENT FROM HORIZONTAL WELL DRILLED ACROSS SECTIONS - GoHaynesvilleShale.com2024-03-28T22:58:02Zhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/forum/topics/payment-from-horizontal-well-drilled-across-sections?commentId=2117179%3AComment%3A3681449&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noSkip, no I do not have a surv…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2018-04-12:2117179:Comment:36814492018-04-12T18:12:09.341ZJesse Joynerhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/JesseJoyner
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Skip, no I do not have a survey plat for each of our units. It's a concern; but, like I stated, I'm reasonably happy with our pay status. Right now I'm busy, managing a number of irons in several fires. When I have time in the future, I may drilled down via your helpful advice to check the info via SONRIS. Yet per the complexity of my family's heirship, my gut has no ringing bells. In life I've learned that rocking the boat can sometimes cause more trouble than…</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Skip, no I do not have a survey plat for each of our units. It's a concern; but, like I stated, I'm reasonably happy with our pay status. Right now I'm busy, managing a number of irons in several fires. When I have time in the future, I may drilled down via your helpful advice to check the info via SONRIS. Yet per the complexity of my family's heirship, my gut has no ringing bells. In life I've learned that rocking the boat can sometimes cause more trouble than it's worth. Plus, we will probably have more CULs drilled in the near future (with the Iran/House of Saud flareup looming), and I don't want to do anything to throw a wrench into the well-oiled drilling/royalty machine, so to speak. Thanks for your concern. </span></p> Jesse, do you have a unit sur…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2018-04-12:2117179:Comment:36814472018-04-12T17:57:07.726ZSkip Peel - Mineral Consultanthttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ilandman
<p>Jesse, do you have a unit survey plat for each of your producing units?</p>
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<p>Jesse, do you have a unit survey plat for each of your producing units?</p>
<p></p> Skip, I've never received suc…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2018-04-12:2117179:Comment:36815172018-04-12T17:54:28.595ZJesse Joynerhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/JesseJoyner
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Skip, I've never received such a detailed letter from one of our operators. Years back, when we had the first wave of CUL drilling, I had to contact that operator's land department via email in order to get an explanation on how they calculated the math. This was a high-quality top company, and I'd previously exchanged info with a senior landman. Sharp guy. Helpful attitude. Spot on. He took the time to walk me through the math via email. Then as the years…</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Skip, I've never received such a detailed letter from one of our operators. Years back, when we had the first wave of CUL drilling, I had to contact that operator's land department via email in order to get an explanation on how they calculated the math. This was a high-quality top company, and I'd previously exchanged info with a senior landman. Sharp guy. Helpful attitude. Spot on. He took the time to walk me through the math via email. Then as the years advanced and we had more CULs drilled, I'd just get D.O.s with the royalty percentages for each new well, and I could vet the math myself, knowing my royalty for each section per all of the previous wells in a specific unit/section, which included many old verts. Again, once the senior landman had initially explained how a CUL's percentages were derived, such as CHK did for Andrew, I've been able to check the math without any trouble. Again, I've been pleased with all of our operators and the regular royalty payments each month. Overall, as best as I can audit their math, etc. -- I haven't seen any glaring problems. If anything, they could be picking our pockets ever so slightly on the deductions, since not all of our wells have the Free Royalty Clause. Before the HA, I was savvy enough to be able to insert a no-decustions clause into a few of our section locations, but we also have old HBP leases were we are paying for processing, transporting, compression, etc. So some of our CULs are burdened with deductions. Yet I've come to accept these % bites as standard operating procedure. Back before the HA, we didn't have so many chomps out of the pie. But after years of auditing the royalty statements and speaking to various land departments, I eventually threw in the towel and rolled over. It's a small price to do business, and I feel my family is lucky to have such reasonable and well-managed operators that aren't out to squeeze us, such as I've heard with CHK.</span></p> We are deep in the weeds here…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2018-04-12:2117179:Comment:36815152018-04-12T17:52:01.566ZSkip Peel - Mineral Consultanthttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ilandman
<p>We are deep in the weeds here, M B. :-)</p>
<p>What I would like to see is a copy of a DO, specific to a single HC well, that uses the formula on page 2 of Andrew's letter to state an amended <span style="text-decoration: underline;">royalty</span> decimal interest. Not an allocation decimal interest. If there is such a DO, I would like to see a royalty statement that uses that amended HC royalty decimal. Anyone that has one or both but doesn't care to share a copy can simply post a…</p>
<p>We are deep in the weeds here, M B. :-)</p>
<p>What I would like to see is a copy of a DO, specific to a single HC well, that uses the formula on page 2 of Andrew's letter to state an amended <span style="text-decoration: underline;">royalty</span> decimal interest. Not an allocation decimal interest. If there is such a DO, I would like to see a royalty statement that uses that amended HC royalty decimal. Anyone that has one or both but doesn't care to share a copy can simply post a reply if they understand what is being asked.</p>
<p></p> Slight thread drift but as a…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2018-04-12:2117179:Comment:36814432018-04-12T17:45:45.339ZM B Gilsterhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/MBGilster
<p>Slight thread drift but as a RO that received a sim. CHK DO & accompanying letter like Andrew on the previous page & also a RO in the above LEMAC FARMS 7-6 HC 1 w/ Exco, I'll be tracking what you fellas are discussing here.</p>
<p>Slight thread drift but as a RO that received a sim. CHK DO & accompanying letter like Andrew on the previous page & also a RO in the above LEMAC FARMS 7-6 HC 1 w/ Exco, I'll be tracking what you fellas are discussing here.</p> Dion, I don't keep running to…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2018-04-12:2117179:Comment:36816642018-04-12T16:11:08.534ZSkip Peel - Mineral Consultanthttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ilandman
<p>Dion, I don't keep running totals like that. They have no relevance for my business.</p>
<p>Here is a cut and paste of a reply from OOC/SONRIS regarding HC wells reporting under code numbers starting with "3". It explains why there are few such wells. The response is based on the EXCO wells you referenced.</p>
<p>"<span style="font-size: 11pt;"><em><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: #44546a;">Cross unit wells with a LUW starting with “3” will be amended to unit LUWs…</span></em></span></p>
<p>Dion, I don't keep running totals like that. They have no relevance for my business.</p>
<p>Here is a cut and paste of a reply from OOC/SONRIS regarding HC wells reporting under code numbers starting with "3". It explains why there are few such wells. The response is based on the EXCO wells you referenced.</p>
<p>"<span style="font-size: 11pt;"><em><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: #44546a;">Cross unit wells with a LUW starting with “3” will be amended to unit LUWs eventually. Those wells were completed in a manner not approved by Order. For instance, the Exco wells have laterals completed longer than requested by Order. Exco will have another hearing (if they haven’t already done so) to present the as-drilled lateral and if no objection is received, an Order will be approved to produce the wells as-drilled, and the unit LUWs will be added."</span></em></span></p> Skip:
Just as an aside - How…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2018-04-12:2117179:Comment:36816592018-04-12T15:53:10.957ZDion Warr, CPLhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/DionWarr
<p>Skip:</p>
<p>Just as an aside - How many completed CULs are you showing currently across how many units at this time (assuming completed, and initial completion reports / IPs shown)? And although the Haynesville makes up a fair number of these, but how many as to Horizontal CV / LCVs?</p>
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<p>Just as an aside - How many completed CULs are you showing currently across how many units at this time (assuming completed, and initial completion reports / IPs shown)? And although the Haynesville makes up a fair number of these, but how many as to Horizontal CV / LCVs?</p> Thanks. That's the first LUW…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2018-04-12:2117179:Comment:36815062018-04-12T15:05:10.237ZSkip Peel - Mineral Consultanthttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ilandman
<p>Thanks. That's the first LUW code number I've seen starting with a "3". And I look at <span style="text-decoration: underline;">a lot</span> of HC wells. I'll have to ask the SONRIS staff about this. They may have a logical reason but I can't think of one off the top of my head.</p>
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<p>Thanks. That's the first LUW code number I've seen starting with a "3". And I look at <span style="text-decoration: underline;">a lot</span> of HC wells. I'll have to ask the SONRIS staff about this. They may have a logical reason but I can't think of one off the top of my head.</p>
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This would appear to be…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2018-04-12:2117179:Comment:36814262018-04-12T14:58:46.889ZDion Warr, CPLhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/DionWarr
<p>Skip:</p>
<p>This would appear to be one:</p>
<p><a href="http://ucmwww.dnr.state.la.us/ucmsearch/UCMRedir.aspx?url=http%3a%2f%2fdnrucm%2fucm%2fgroups%2fconservation%2fdocuments%2fooc%2f5784210.pdf" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Well plat - SN 250093</a></p>
<p><a href="http://sonlite.dnr.state.la.us/sundown/cart_prod/cart_con_wellinfo2?p_wsn=250093" rel="noopener" target="_blank">(LEMAC FARMS 7-6 HC #1) - SN 250093</a></p>
<p>I would have a pick a bit for some more - not to many of these…</p>
<p>Skip:</p>
<p>This would appear to be one:</p>
<p><a href="http://ucmwww.dnr.state.la.us/ucmsearch/UCMRedir.aspx?url=http%3a%2f%2fdnrucm%2fucm%2fgroups%2fconservation%2fdocuments%2fooc%2f5784210.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Well plat - SN 250093</a></p>
<p><a href="http://sonlite.dnr.state.la.us/sundown/cart_prod/cart_con_wellinfo2?p_wsn=250093" target="_blank" rel="noopener">(LEMAC FARMS 7-6 HC #1) - SN 250093</a></p>
<p>I would have a pick a bit for some more - not to many of these off of the "official DUC list" yet (or at least not initial completion reporting)...</p> Dion~
Considering your statem…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2018-04-12:2117179:Comment:36815002018-04-12T14:06:45.629ZSkip Peel - Mineral Consultanthttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ilandman
<p>Dion~</p>
<p>Considering your statement that, " <em>I have seen LUWs set up as a "CUL LUW" code which captures only those CUL wells. Alternately, I have seen where two sets of reporting are shown, one for each unit represented as to the "pre-CUL" LUW - and thus you have to match to your unit's LUW code to obtain your respective production volume</em>", can you point me to a well file with a "CUL LUW". I have never run across one in my Haynesville related research. All the LUW well file…</p>
<p>Dion~</p>
<p>Considering your statement that, " <em>I have seen LUWs set up as a "CUL LUW" code which captures only those CUL wells. Alternately, I have seen where two sets of reporting are shown, one for each unit represented as to the "pre-CUL" LUW - and thus you have to match to your unit's LUW code to obtain your respective production volume</em>", can you point me to a well file with a "CUL LUW". I have never run across one in my Haynesville related research. All the LUW well file sections I have seen fit your second example, production volume reported by two or three different LUW code numbers one for each unit transected by a perforated lateral.</p>
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