Shipping Industry Converting to LNG? - GoHaynesvilleShale.com2024-03-28T13:40:53Zhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/forum/topics/shipping-industry-converting-to-lng?commentId=2117179%3AComment%3A2697688&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noIts a good presentation and w…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2012-09-11:2117179:Comment:26976882012-09-11T23:52:57.069Zdbobhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/dbob
<p>Its a good presentation and worth a look by anyone interested in the issue. The emission reductions are impressive, some of the technical challenges are articulated, and market forces are also addressed. Its from a Japan centric focus, where LNG is relatively expensive, but the environmental concerns are pushing development. </p>
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<p>Of particular interest, is the ability to duel fuel, similar to some of the big rig applications. </p>
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<p>Its a good presentation and worth a look by anyone interested in the issue. The emission reductions are impressive, some of the technical challenges are articulated, and market forces are also addressed. Its from a Japan centric focus, where LNG is relatively expensive, but the environmental concerns are pushing development. </p>
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<p>Of particular interest, is the ability to duel fuel, similar to some of the big rig applications. </p>
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<p></p> The LNG transports are being…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2012-09-11:2117179:Comment:26965892012-09-11T00:38:21.483Zdbobhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/dbob
<p>The LNG transports are being built from the ground up, so yeah, no problem with using LNG/electric as the power source. I don't know enough to fathom cost effectiveness. </p>
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<p>I just don't see the possibility of re-powering existing ships for LNG, unless the cost advantage in terms of fuel is huge, and the ship was due for a refit anyway.</p>
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<p>The LNG transports are being built from the ground up, so yeah, no problem with using LNG/electric as the power source. I don't know enough to fathom cost effectiveness. </p>
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<p>I just don't see the possibility of re-powering existing ships for LNG, unless the cost advantage in terms of fuel is huge, and the ship was due for a refit anyway.</p>
<p></p> Good point about the ports an…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2012-09-05:2117179:Comment:26915852012-09-05T16:43:42.955ZBenjamin Hallhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/BenjaminHall
<p>Good point about the ports and refueling--Singapore is studying it now. Fingers crossed that this develops positively.</p>
<p>I get the impression what's driving the potential change is two things:</p>
<p><br></br>1) "<span>Stricter pollution standards mean shipowners need to install expensive scrubbing equipment to cut emissions, use costlier low-sulfur oil or perhaps turn to gas."</span></p>
<p><span><br></br>2)"<span>The dynamics of the global oil-refining industry are working in LNG's favor as…</span></span></p>
<p>Good point about the ports and refueling--Singapore is studying it now. Fingers crossed that this develops positively.</p>
<p>I get the impression what's driving the potential change is two things:</p>
<p><br/>1) "<span>Stricter pollution standards mean shipowners need to install expensive scrubbing equipment to cut emissions, use costlier low-sulfur oil or perhaps turn to gas."</span></p>
<p><span><br/>2)"<span>The dynamics of the global oil-refining industry are working in LNG's favor as refiners are investing millions of dollars to produce as little fuel oil as possible, leading to a gradual decline in supplies and higher prices."</span></span></p> Benjamin
Hadn't heard of it…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2012-09-04:2117179:Comment:26909232012-09-04T22:14:22.365Zdbobhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/dbob
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<p>Hadn't heard of it, but most of the big ships are using fuel oils, like #4 or #6 for fuel, which is cheaper than diesel . However, a lot of modern ships are using electrically driven thrusters powered by generators, rather than simply on an engine, and my guess is that LNG would be excellent in this application. It is probably a chicken and egg problem to some degree: which ports can fuel ships with LNG?</p>
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<p>Hadn't heard of it, but most of the big ships are using fuel oils, like #4 or #6 for fuel, which is cheaper than diesel . However, a lot of modern ships are using electrically driven thrusters powered by generators, rather than simply on an engine, and my guess is that LNG would be excellent in this application. It is probably a chicken and egg problem to some degree: which ports can fuel ships with LNG?</p>
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