Washington State bans gas cars by 2030 – the earliest in the US - GoHaynesvilleShale.com2024-03-28T10:52:00Zhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/forum/topics/washington-state-bans-gas-cars-by-2030-the-earliest-in-the-us?commentId=2117179%3AComment%3A3981167&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHarrison County owes much to…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2021-05-02:2117179:Comment:39818872021-05-02T20:15:57.691ZSkip Peel - Mineral Consultanthttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ilandman
<p>Harrison County owes much to the "government". Rural electrification under the 1935 Emergency Relief Act under FDR brought Harrison into the the Twentieth Century and the WPA built Caddo Lake State Park (one of my favorite parts of Harrison along with Uncertain). Interstate 20, built with federal funds, benefited Harrison along with much of NE Texas. The government is what we make it, not some malign force.</p>
<p>Zealotry comes in many forms, some worthy and some not so much. Support…</p>
<p>Harrison County owes much to the "government". Rural electrification under the 1935 Emergency Relief Act under FDR brought Harrison into the the Twentieth Century and the WPA built Caddo Lake State Park (one of my favorite parts of Harrison along with Uncertain). Interstate 20, built with federal funds, benefited Harrison along with much of NE Texas. The government is what we make it, not some malign force.</p>
<p>Zealotry comes in many forms, some worthy and some not so much. Support for science-informed climate actions would be at the top of the worthy list, IMO.</p> I applaud your ancestors and…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2021-05-02:2117179:Comment:39818862021-05-02T19:56:35.090ZChad Ellishttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ChadEllis487
<p>I applaud your ancestors and their resolve. Like you, my ancestors have been here for generations. Our ranch has been in continuous operation in Harrison county since 1846. Those early pioneers were indeed resilient. However, their obstacles were natural. Not the government and zealots with a differing opinion.</p>
<p>I applaud your ancestors and their resolve. Like you, my ancestors have been here for generations. Our ranch has been in continuous operation in Harrison county since 1846. Those early pioneers were indeed resilient. However, their obstacles were natural. Not the government and zealots with a differing opinion.</p> Well, Chad, it's not about tr…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2021-05-02:2117179:Comment:39818082021-05-02T18:21:03.161ZJesse Joynerhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/JesseJoyner
<p><span style="font-size: 18pt;">Well, Chad, it's not about trusting. It's about pondering the big picture, i.e., weighing practicalities in regards to why Uncle Sam will be doing what's best for its citizens, including you. The farm lobby is quite big. That's why so many mega spreads garner welfare payments per crop insurance, etc.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><font size="5">Now, of course, the public has been lied to and duped many times about what the politicians…</font></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 18pt;">Well, Chad, it's not about trusting. It's about pondering the big picture, i.e., weighing practicalities in regards to why Uncle Sam will be doing what's best for its citizens, including you. The farm lobby is quite big. That's why so many mega spreads garner welfare payments per crop insurance, etc.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><font size="5">Now, of course, the public has been lied to and duped many times about what the politicians plan on passing as legislation. That's true. Yet if it wasn't for our rural-friendly congressmen, then Texas would never have had so darn many paved farm-to-market roads. As they say, everything is bigger in Texas. The state has a wonderful system of taxpayer financed roads.</font></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><font size="5">Now, having spent a few years growing up in Tejas, with uncles and aunts and plenty of cousins still calling the state home, I fully understand flipping the finger at city folks. Both my parents were country. I grew up country. City folks, in my book, tend to lie more than good ol' boys, although I know plenty of rednecks you can't trust, too.</font></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><font size="5">And since my roots go way, way back to the days of independence from Mexico and the Alamo, I understand relying on one's self, without any desire to ask anyone for help. That's the way I was brought up.</font></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><font size="5">Yet think about this. What would you do if you couldn't buy any gasoline for your truck? Weigh this as a hypothetical. In other words, if there were no gas stations, such as the one my family used to own, what would you do to stay self-sufficient and keep the homestead running?</font></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><font size="5">My ancestors were the pioneering families who populated the South, starting back in the 1600s and moving west, farther and farther west. They didn't cry over spilled milk. They didn't whine when they had to make do without store-bought goods. No, they went out and figured out a work-around to get a job done.</font></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><font size="5">That said, since you don't trust your elected officials, maybe you should simply buy a huge fuel storage tank (or go with CNG or LNG) for your spread and some extra duel-usage pickups so you'll be able to continue to live your present lifestyle for the rest of your lifetime. In 30 years, no one will stop a "farm truck" simply because it's an ICE vehicle, IMHO. No Texas Ranger, that's for sure.</font></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><font size="5">So, like my ancestors, it's always better to be self-reliant.</font></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><font size="5">Plus, they might have hybrid dualies in the future with both CNG & electric long-haul motors. </font></span></p> So far, I haven’t seen any in…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2021-05-02:2117179:Comment:39819662021-05-02T17:34:33.660ZChad Ellishttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ChadEllis487
<p>So far, I haven’t seen any in the legislation or proposals. I don’t trust anyone’s intentions. I</p>
<p>So far, I haven’t seen any in the legislation or proposals. I don’t trust anyone’s intentions. I</p> My 200 mile reference was too…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2021-05-02:2117179:Comment:39818812021-05-02T17:09:40.729ZChad Ellishttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ChadEllis487
<p>My 200 mile reference was too how far I have to tow a loaded truck and trailer. There are plenty of areas south of Carthage that are more than 20 miles from a gas station. In West Texas, there are areas that are over 50 miles ,or more, from stations. Your EV range is for a light passenger car. The range for a pull vehicle is no where near that. Halve that range in sub freezing conditions. My comment about the ambulances concerns the speed of response. I’m 30 mins from the nearest EMT…</p>
<p>My 200 mile reference was too how far I have to tow a loaded truck and trailer. There are plenty of areas south of Carthage that are more than 20 miles from a gas station. In West Texas, there are areas that are over 50 miles ,or more, from stations. Your EV range is for a light passenger car. The range for a pull vehicle is no where near that. Halve that range in sub freezing conditions. My comment about the ambulances concerns the speed of response. I’m 30 mins from the nearest EMT station or hospital. When there is an emergency in this area, we usually meet the ambulance in route. Especially on a day like today when we just had a heavy rain. The shortest route to a main road is a dirt road. There is no way a 2wd vehicle can make it down this road for the next few hours or even a day. <br/>My concerns have yet to be addressed. When commercial power is out, how am I supposed to work? Tend my cattle? Address an emergency? These are practical issues that need to be addressed. The answer is not just harden the infrastructure. Out here, no matter how hardened, there will always be trees that fall, lightning strikes on transformer stations, or a wreck into a power pole. (These are the 3 causes of my power outages just this week). These are not political arguments, but everyday events.</p>
<p><br/>If there is a political argument, it is that broad mandates make poor policy. <br/><br/></p>
<p>I will repeat what I’ve previously stated about actions. You like and want EV’s. I support your choice and ability to buy. I hope it serves you well. On the other hand, I don’t see any EV’s that will fit my application. Worse, I see governments banning, or proposing to ban, what I have to have for my livelihood. Will you support my needs? If not, why? </p> I’m a rancher and contractor…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2021-05-02:2117179:Comment:39819602021-05-02T15:27:19.167ZMaxhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/Max
<p><em>I’m a rancher and contractor in Texas. I use a 1 ton duality to haul equipment and cattle on a daily basis. It is not uncommon for me to haul over 200 miles a day in very remote, rural areas. I have extra fuel tanks just to make sure I do not get stranded.</em></p>
<p><em> For those that aren’t familiar with rural living, in an emergency you have to meet an ambulance in route to make it on time or because of road conditions.</em></p>
<p>Texas is a big place but 200 miles from anywhere…</p>
<p><em>I’m a rancher and contractor in Texas. I use a 1 ton duality to haul equipment and cattle on a daily basis. It is not uncommon for me to haul over 200 miles a day in very remote, rural areas. I have extra fuel tanks just to make sure I do not get stranded.</em></p>
<p><em> For those that aren’t familiar with rural living, in an emergency you have to meet an ambulance in route to make it on time or because of road conditions.</em></p>
<p>Texas is a big place but 200 miles from anywhere is a far stretch. Your not using real arguments to support ICE's. Yes, East Texas has some remote places, but I can't think of any that would be more than 20 miles from a gas station. Today's EV's have a range of 300-400 miles. There's no reason that range is not going to be even more in 10 years. When we went to the most remote place we could go, the moon, we took an EV to ride around. </p>
<p>I'm familiar with rural living. Some of the best fun I've ever had was driving on our dirt roads. They have now paved all those roads and kids driving today won't know how to slide a truck around a dirt road curve. That was over 50 years ago and even then ambulances did just fine on those roads.</p>
<p>The only time I heard of someone having to take care of getting to the hospital on their own was when my granddaddy lost an eye and had to have a friend drive him to Shreveport. That was in 1952. He didn't use an ambulance because he didn't have any money.</p>
<p>Having the government pick winners and losers is nothing new. Goes on everyday. We could pretend that it doesn't and cry freedom when we're upset, but nobody is really free. Why? Because we don't live on a isolated island and eat coconuts.</p>
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<p></p> Chad: I'm sure there'll be j…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2021-05-01:2117179:Comment:39814582021-05-01T15:17:33.921ZJesse Joynerhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/JesseJoyner
<p><span style="font-size: 18pt;">Chad: I'm sure there'll be job-specific exemptions for ICE work vehicles like yours in the future. Even with a push to convert the commuting masses to EVs, such changes will not happen quickly. It'll take decades. The ICE will still be around for another 50 to 100 years, but it most likely will be only a very small percentage of usage. Exceptions will be allowed. So worry not. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 18pt;">Chad: I'm sure there'll be job-specific exemptions for ICE work vehicles like yours in the future. Even with a push to convert the commuting masses to EVs, such changes will not happen quickly. It'll take decades. The ICE will still be around for another 50 to 100 years, but it most likely will be only a very small percentage of usage. Exceptions will be allowed. So worry not. </span></p> The problem with your Antifa…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2021-05-01:2117179:Comment:39817682021-05-01T02:02:45.661ZStonewallhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/Stonewall
<p>The problem with your Antifa definition is that they actually act like Nazis and Fascists. They are terrorists.</p>
<p>The problem with your Antifa definition is that they actually act like Nazis and Fascists. They are terrorists.</p> Your argument sounds familiar…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2021-04-24:2117179:Comment:39811782021-04-24T23:09:01.290ZSkip Peel - Mineral Consultanthttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ilandman
<p>Your argument sounds familiar. I think it is similar to those who do not wish to be vaccinated for COVID. All this angst over supposed government overreach and "freedom" misses something. Individual rights do not allow someone to put others in jeopardy. And the welfare of the majority is the rightful focus of the federal government. </p>
<p>The free market is already focused on and moving in the direction of renewable energy and climate risk mitigation. A little push from the federal…</p>
<p>Your argument sounds familiar. I think it is similar to those who do not wish to be vaccinated for COVID. All this angst over supposed government overreach and "freedom" misses something. Individual rights do not allow someone to put others in jeopardy. And the welfare of the majority is the rightful focus of the federal government. </p>
<p>The free market is already focused on and moving in the direction of renewable energy and climate risk mitigation. A little push from the federal government will only marginally speed up the transition. For example, government investment in battery technology and charging infrastructure will assist the transition to EVs but industry will make the major advancement when EVs are price competitive with similar ICE vehicles. Government investment in the electric grid will be critical to long term stability and low cost consumer electricity but it will be the electric utilities and merchant power generators who will deploy the latest technology in generation sources. Those are market forces at work as usual. </p>
<p>The complaint that government is forcing the market to do something other than what is in its best interest is not supported by factual analysis. The market headed down that road prior to the current administration. It's where the future and the money is.</p>
<p></p> My GMC 3500 Duramax is consid…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2021-04-24:2117179:Comment:39809462021-04-24T22:51:38.753ZChad Ellishttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ChadEllis487
<p>My GMC 3500 Duramax is considered "light duty" in this context and would be banned. I have no problems with the markets dictating what evolves. Get the politics out of the way and let the best and most appropriate designs win. </p>
<p>What should be abhorrent to all is a government deciding what is best. The very action of a governmental body banning one product and forcing the use of another is murderous to Freedom and Liberty. The uniqueness of America is in our Individual rights. …</p>
<p>My GMC 3500 Duramax is considered "light duty" in this context and would be banned. I have no problems with the markets dictating what evolves. Get the politics out of the way and let the best and most appropriate designs win. </p>
<p>What should be abhorrent to all is a government deciding what is best. The very action of a governmental body banning one product and forcing the use of another is murderous to Freedom and Liberty. The uniqueness of America is in our Individual rights. Up until now, the government was restricted in its power by the rights of the Individual. The government could only do what the citizens allowed. Should this role be reversed, where the citizens are only allowed to do what the government blesses, then we are no longer free. We will have returned to the subject status that plagued humankind until the birth of America. </p>
<p>I'm not sure why you want to frame this as a right vs left political issue? From a perspective of Liberty, its more of a right vs wrong issue. The difference between our positions is in our actions. You like EV's, I don't have a problem with them, but they cannot work in my situation. I wish you well on your choice and will be pleased if it is all you wish for. You don't like my ICE vehicle, but instead of letting me be content with my choice, you opine for my freedoms to be extinguished. One position promotes free markets, free choice, and freedom of ideas. The other promotes authoritarian mandates, elimination of choice and the removal of Freedom.</p>