Will the oil crash help clean up the Permian Basin? - GoHaynesvilleShale.com2024-03-29T05:37:51Zhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/forum/topics/will-the-oil-crash-help-clean-up-the-permian-basin?commentId=2117179%3AComment%3A3912270&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI'm supportive of pipelines. …tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2020-06-28:2117179:Comment:39122902020-06-28T18:39:21.911ZSkip Peel - Mineral Consultanthttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ilandman
<p>I'm supportive of pipelines. I worked on a big Texas Eastern long distance line through West Virginia and Pennsylvania in the early '70s. So although I think pipelines are the best and safest means of transporting natural gas and oil, I have some first hand experience with how companies, even major companies such as Texas Eastern back in the day, cut corners and ignore regulations. I only worked on that one project but the company managers and employees who were not following federal regs…</p>
<p>I'm supportive of pipelines. I worked on a big Texas Eastern long distance line through West Virginia and Pennsylvania in the early '70s. So although I think pipelines are the best and safest means of transporting natural gas and oil, I have some first hand experience with how companies, even major companies such as Texas Eastern back in the day, cut corners and ignore regulations. I only worked on that one project but the company managers and employees who were not following federal regs and joking about them as they ignored or circumvented them, built numerous pipelines before and after my brief stint.</p>
<p>Yes, the bad apples give the others a bad rap but the number of companies who make a practice of not following safety regulations nor operating and reporting requirements (state and federal) is not an inconsequential number. And as tough times squeeze a lot of companies I think that even some usually good actors are cutting corners and gaming the regs.</p>
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I hear what you are sayi…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2020-06-28:2117179:Comment:39122882020-06-28T18:11:06.459ZRock Manhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/MarkP
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<p>I hear what you are saying but after 40+ years on the operating side of oilfield operations, I have a very strong belief that operators are working hard to do things the right way and protect the areas where they are working.</p>
<p>I agree - Mistakes happen. And one "Ah, s--t overrides a thousand atta boys".</p>
<p>As with many other industries, the public only finds out about the mistakes. No one wants to write or read articles about all the safety efforts and uneventful…</p>
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<p>I hear what you are saying but after 40+ years on the operating side of oilfield operations, I have a very strong belief that operators are working hard to do things the right way and protect the areas where they are working.</p>
<p>I agree - Mistakes happen. And one "Ah, s--t overrides a thousand atta boys".</p>
<p>As with many other industries, the public only finds out about the mistakes. No one wants to write or read articles about all the safety efforts and uneventful operations that are taking place all over the oil field - both now and in the past. Boring reading!</p>
<p>Big article in Houston Chronicle (and probably SA paper since it is the same owner) today on the early May Blanco River screw up. Typical of the press to do a deep expose' type article 6 weeks after an event takes place.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Kinder Morgan is rolling ahead with construction and trenching along the entire length of the pipeline ROW.</p>
<p>And I figure that others who have backgrounds simlar to mine would echo these statements.</p>
<p>Just my opinion as always.</p>
<p>PS - No one complained much about the Kinder Morgan smaller gas line that was laid in thru the same area in the Hill County (but 4-5 miles to the north) when that was being done. And that low price natural gas that feeds towns like Fredericksburg sure beats paying for LP options.</p> We shouldn't be shocked .....…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2020-06-28:2117179:Comment:39120372020-06-28T15:23:56.051ZSkip Peel - Mineral Consultanthttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ilandman
<p>We shouldn't be shocked ........even under the specific circumstance of having sufficient data on the aquifer in question. Incidents along these lines happen far too often and undermine the public perception of the industry. The industry cuts too many corners too much of the time. The contest for public acceptance of hydrocarbon fuels and all that entails is extraordinarily important for the industry to remain healthy long term. It seems to be hurrying to its own end. The next few years…</p>
<p>We shouldn't be shocked ........even under the specific circumstance of having sufficient data on the aquifer in question. Incidents along these lines happen far too often and undermine the public perception of the industry. The industry cuts too many corners too much of the time. The contest for public acceptance of hydrocarbon fuels and all that entails is extraordinarily important for the industry to remain healthy long term. It seems to be hurrying to its own end. The next few years will likely be the determining period. Enough screw ups like this and the public will write off fossil fuels and the majority will demand renewable energy to be the national priority.</p>
<p></p> Jay, they screwed up boring u…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2020-06-27:2117179:Comment:39121212020-06-27T21:12:11.448ZRock Manhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/MarkP
<p>Jay, they screwed up boring under the Blanco River between Wimberly and Blanco and lost a lot of drilling mud into one of the shallow aquifers (and contaminated several water wells in that area). Temporary "stop" injunction put into place and several lawsuits filed by the well owners. This happened about 4-6 weeks ago - KM hasn't stopped moving ahead on the line in all other places.</p>
<p>Considering all the info out there on aquifer depth and related issues, I am shocked they made this…</p>
<p>Jay, they screwed up boring under the Blanco River between Wimberly and Blanco and lost a lot of drilling mud into one of the shallow aquifers (and contaminated several water wells in that area). Temporary "stop" injunction put into place and several lawsuits filed by the well owners. This happened about 4-6 weeks ago - KM hasn't stopped moving ahead on the line in all other places.</p>
<p>Considering all the info out there on aquifer depth and related issues, I am shocked they made this error.</p>
<p>Just takes time and money for them to get through this issue.</p> Semi related comment to the P…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2020-06-27:2117179:Comment:39122632020-06-27T16:31:07.018ZRock Manhttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/MarkP
<p>Semi related comment to the Permian Basin flaring - the new pipelines to the Gulf Coast are getting closer to completion! I get to watch the Kinder Morgan line construction as it runs through the Hill County. 65% completed as of last week. 42" line to handle max of 2 BCF per day.</p>
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<p>Hope to soon have more take away capacity for Permian - that will be one of the most positive impacts on reducing flaring (although there will always be either "stranded wells" with no nearby…</p>
<p>Semi related comment to the Permian Basin flaring - the new pipelines to the Gulf Coast are getting closer to completion! I get to watch the Kinder Morgan line construction as it runs through the Hill County. 65% completed as of last week. 42" line to handle max of 2 BCF per day.</p>
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<p>Hope to soon have more take away capacity for Permian - that will be one of the most positive impacts on reducing flaring (although there will always be either "stranded wells" with no nearby pipelines or marginal oil producers that flare small amounts of gas instead of spending $$$ to tie to gas line and install compression.</p> I think the outcome depends o…tag:gohaynesvilleshale.com,2020-06-26:2117179:Comment:39118412020-06-26T16:35:57.969ZSkip Peel - Mineral Consultanthttps://gohaynesvilleshale.com/profile/ilandman
<p>I think the outcome depends on whether the bankruptcy courts liquidate the assets of the Zombies that are then acquired by larger, more responsible operators or restructure them so that they can re-emerge as going concerns and continue doing business as usual. I do expect that in the latter case, the TRRC will adopt some regulations governing flaring and fugitive emissions. Maybe not as good an outcome from an environmental aspect but a step in the right direction. </p>
<p>I think the outcome depends on whether the bankruptcy courts liquidate the assets of the Zombies that are then acquired by larger, more responsible operators or restructure them so that they can re-emerge as going concerns and continue doing business as usual. I do expect that in the latter case, the TRRC will adopt some regulations governing flaring and fugitive emissions. Maybe not as good an outcome from an environmental aspect but a step in the right direction. </p>