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Permalink Reply by Speedracer88 on January 20, 2011 at 5:43

The plats filed with the Railroad Commission Permits do not necessarily tell the whole story as to the size or configuration of a unit, as a basis for calculating unit factors (dilution factor).  The 'real' unit used for calculating royalty percentage (dilution) is the 'courthouse unit' which is filed in the county where the land is located (usually styled as a "Unit Declaration".  That is probably the reason that Sonnera told you that you would have to go to the courthouse for the records.  In some cases the plats filed with the RRC match what is filed in the courthouse, but if there is a descrepancy between the two, the courthouse unit is the operative one as a basis for calculating royalty interests.

Permalink Reply by jffree1 on January 20, 2011 at 6:56

If you go looking in the courthouse be sure to check for amended Unit Designations.  I know of some Valence units that have had multiple amendments filed.

 

347-33194 is the Standaland Trust #1H.  EOG has the deep rights on Sonerra acreage, for Haynesville/Bossier development. 

Permalink Reply by jffree1 on March 13, 2011 at 5:38

347-33194 is the "Stanaland" Trust #1H.  The "d" was a typo.

Permalink Reply by Jan Childress on January 21, 2011 at 5:06

For the Lone Wolf, the second survey filed with the RRC is the operative one used to calculate royalty interest but good to know that's not always the case. 

Permalink Reply by Peggy Hall on January 22, 2011 at 10:51

Often a trip to the county courthouse to look up documents is needed.  For those of us who don’t live in the area, there is another option.  Go to the County Clerk website for the county you need.  There usually is a link for land records online that will take you to a third party provider.  The fees vary with a minimum of $1 per page – the same rate I paid at the courthouse a few years ago.  Even when the cost is higher, it’s cheaper and more convenient than a trip.

Link to Nacogdoches County Clerk  http://www.co.nacogdoches.tx.us/ips/cms/countyoffices/countyClerk.html

Toward the bottom of the page, in red, you will see “Click here for Texas Land Records”.  On that screen, just underneath the tool bar, you will see a “click here” link to a free search for a specific county.  Select Nacogdoches Grantor/Grantee &Vital Statistics.  On the next screen select free search in the tool bar.

When you find the document you need, you pay to access/copy at a rate of $1 per page for the total number of pages in the document, whether you need only one page or all the pages in the document.  The search results index will show you how many pages are in the document.

I think it would be helpful to do a search online, even if you actually go to the courthouse because it will list amendments filed to the unit designation, or whatever document you are looking for, along with the date it was filed and the book, volume, and page number.  That can be found in the index without having to pay anything.  Take care to click on any item that is highlighted as a link to find all the documents available.

Permalink Reply by j garrett on January 20, 2011 at 6:54

Sonerra assigned the deep rights to EOG. Units targeting different formations can overlap.  So , you may end up with royalties from multiple operators producing from different depths.  But, you could get included in one and cut out of another, only if your land is not in that other unit.

Permalink Reply by Jan Childress on January 20, 2011 at 16:47

Hi Ben...I am also in the Lone Wolf #1.  You can find the second survey of 1058.40 acres dated April 26, 2007 on the RRC website at...oh shoot it won't let me paste...what did I do now....darn. Okay I'll type it http://rrcsearch.neubus.com/esd-rrc/#results

Select Profile "Oil and Gas Potential"

Enter "224348" for Lease/Gas I.D.

Click on "Submit"  You should only get one result.

Click on "Potential" 

Be patient...the screen is blank even though it says "Done" at the bottom.  It takes a bit to load.

There are 32 pages...the map you want is on the last screen, page 32.

     

Permalink Reply by ben walker on January 21, 2011 at 4:58

Thanks much for the replies especially to you Jan. I note that I am "x" on the plat map--perhaps that is prophetic--you know "x" marks the spot where the treasure is :)

Permalink Reply by Jan Childress on January 22, 2011 at 14:35

I like that Ben...think positive. I think EOG is looking at an 18ac site north of you so perhaps if they drill there and go south..ta da!  :)

Permalink Reply by ben walker on January 23, 2011 at 11:00

I noticed today that it had been really quite around here and then it dawned on me I was not hearing the rig activity from the south. After lunch I drove the short distance down the road and found out why--the rig was moved out. As I was passing the site an empty hauling rig approached from the south and turned in to the site so there is still some stuff to be moved. I will keep a look out to see when the fracturing activity begins.

Permalink Reply by ben walker on February 7, 2011 at 5:25

After the ice/snow of last few days I took the 1/2 mile drive down to the drilling site to  see if I could see anything new going on. The pad is close to the road but view is restricted by trees and I did not want to drive in since this is on private property. I did not see any signs of any major activities going on. I don't know if EOG is waiting for fracking operators or ?

Permalink Reply by Jan Childress on February 9, 2011 at 17:33

Thanks for the update Ben. I suspect that EOG will do a similar well near the Lone Wolf like they've put Stanaland 1H next to Thunderbolt. If that happens I know I will have fun trying to calculate the royalty percentage on that one. :)

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