Sabine County, Texas

Has anyone leased south of Hwy 103?
Or west of 1592?
What offers have been made in this area?

Anything happening around Hemphill or east out 83?

Mineral Rights Seminar, Sept. 23
Judon Fambrough, Texas A&M Real Estate Dept. will speak on Texas mineral rights, lease process, lease terms we need to know.
According to John Toner, Sabine County Extension Service Agent, the seminar will be at the San Augustine County Fairgrounds with Bar-B-Q from 5-6 PM and the seminar will be from 6 til 9 or 9:30 PM.
You should call John Toner (409-787-3752) or the San Augustine County Agent (I'm sorry, I don't have the name or phone # yet) to express your interest in attending (get on the list) and you will pay at the door.
Registration fee is $15.00 per person and will include the BBQ. Make checks payable to Sabine County 4H Horse Club.
It is also posted under "EVENTS" on the main page.

Devon is presently finishing up two well units (for certain, could be more) in Sabine County. One is up in the "point" at the Shelby Co. line and the other is on the San Augustine Co. line (presume west of Bronson because of the interest they showed in that area but could be further south). Look for the permits soon.

When queried about their interest in surveys eastward (at/near the lake) they replied that they know it's (HS) over there and they can come back to those areas later. "What we don't know is how far south and west it is. That's what we want to know right now". My source says this came from someone in the DJ Energy office in Hemphill direct to him the last time he visited with them. I'll post the surveys as soon as I can find out exactly where the units are, but that info may not be available until the permits show up on RRC GIS Map.

Thanks so much Jffree! This type of sharing on this forum helps us all.

Thanks for the kind words. More (hopefully) after the hurricane.
JF

I second the thanks jffree, and stay safe!

where are you refering to as up in the point at the shelby county line

Look at the map, HS. In the north end of Sabine the line comes to a point in the Brightman Survey (which straddles both sides of the co. line). That's as near as I can come, at this time, to where this unit is located. That's all I was told..."In the point" at the Shelby line. I will try to find out more when everything settles down again.

I was sort of in a hurry Friday when I got this info as I was gathering last minute supplies at the Dollar General. Sorry that it is lacking in specific details.

no problem there free i checked the map. i know this area pretty well, its just north off where range resources drilled 3 horizonal lime wells off nine mile road in 2004 with no luck, pretty sure most of the area your refering to is blm property

I read in the "Beaumont Enterprise" today that it is taking the RRC an average of 45 days to process and issue a well permit. The norm through last year was 14-21 days. RRC is asking for emergency money to hire contractors to help with the permit workload.

Is anyone in Sabine County getting offers...from anyone?

We signed middle of September but you were probably asking about any October signings.

Yes, but thanks for the response. The grapevine said today that EOG is still making a few 5K offers (instead of 6K) in the Rosevine area but that if you got one you should think fast about taking it. I don't have an opinion on that. It's a personal decision.

jffree1, have you heard anything about the Donner in Sabine Parish? The latest posting on their board said the drilling rig was moving off. Do you think they are moving off the more expensive drilling rig and moving in a pulling unit to perforate and do their testing?

Also, the latest on the Murry is they are completing the pipeline and almost ready to start production. The Olympia well is still in trouble and they will probably move over and drill another well.

Also, Chesapeke has a lot of surveying crews surveying for pipelines and have started a new well site close to Converse but it isn't permited yet.

Haven't heard anything about the Donner lately...but I have someone I can ask. I'll see what I can turn up.

Sandstone, my RigRunner source has been up north for two weeks. I guess we'll have to go see for ourselves or send someone :) unless someone has a current rig locator??

We just received a letter and lease from Endeavor out of Houston regarding 370+ acres under the lake in A-155 and A-53. We didn't know anything about this at all. The bonus is low and the royalty is 1/5th. What is the story on title on land under the lake? I have heard it can be tricky, is that true? Does this lease offer mean that the title work has already been done? We leased another 175+acres to Devon(on land) not far from the area so ownership is not out of the question but when it comes out of the blue, how do you klnow what to think or do? ANy hwlp would be appreciated.

ALongview, my family also has land under water. two tracts under Toledo, one under Rayburn. The surface belongs to: Toledo=Sabine River Authority; Rayburn=USA (US Army Corps of Engineers). In both cases title of the minerals remains with whoever conveyed the land to SRA or C of E. The only thing tricky about it is that it has been forgotten by younger generations and may have heirship questions. Example: If your grandpa conveyed the land and had six kids, and they had several kids each, you can see how many people may be involved in actual ownership of those mineral acres. We have nine acres under Toledo which probably has around 15 heirs involved at this late date. On the other hand we have 140 ac. under Rayburn which only has three heirs and is accessible from land.
As to bonus and royalty, I wouldn't take a smaller offer just due to the fact that it is under water. If it was inaccessible they wouldn't be making offers on it in the first place, don't you think? If it is accessible then it is worth what you get for dry land minerals. We have leased all of our underwater acres at one time or another and have always been paid the going rate.

About the title work already being done...apparently they have done enough that they found you. That doesn't mean they found everyone involved or that it has been done back to the empresarios.

Jffree, We are hoping to get some more detailed info in the next few days as to how widespread(through heirs) the ownership is. We believe that we found the link to the land through a Grandparent but we'll see for sure soon. I'll try to keep everyone updated so as to answer the question for the next person. Thank God for this site, if it weren't for GHS we would certainly be at a disadvantage. Thanks again for your help Jffree, it is always appreciated.

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Sandstone,
As of Friday there is no rig on the Donner et al #1 (per rig locator).

Sandstone, 10/16 production report for Donner etal #1:
TD 10-9-08; RAN 4 1/2 FROM 6108-9489'--4 PRODUCTION PACKERS

Someone with more knowledge will have to interpret this (please) for the terminologically challenged.

Has anybody who signed with Devon had there drafts declined or better yet got payed? I signed 9/22/08 so I have almost a month for it to clear, just wondering how worried I should be.

We signed with Devon and were paid. We have another draft out with them right now(signed on 9/17/08) on another piece of property but am not too worried. They have been a good company.

jffree or who ever knows,
Where is the Donner et al #1 located in Sabine County? Which OG is drilling ?
Thanks

paige linn, the Donner is in Sabine Parish, La across the lake from Sabine Co, TX

jfree, this is how it was explained to me:
"They ran 4.5 in casing from 6108 to 9489. This means they probably have 5.5 in. casing down to about 6200'. They hang the 4.5 in. from the 5.5 in. The 4 production packers are screwed in between the joints of 4.5 in casing at the intervals they have identified from the logs they ran before running the casing. This means that there are probably 4 zones they want to test. They will set the packers and perforate between them and test one zone and then plug that zone off and test the next. Then they have the choice of pulling the 4.5 casing and packers out and re-running just the 4.5 and cement it in place or they may cement packer and casing in place."

Sandstone, Thank you! I did a google on "production packers" and it seems that there are about a jillion different kinds so I just logged off....totally confused, lol.

I'm sorry paige linn...we keep talking about the Donner well across the lake. It's probably because we don't have doodly to talk about over here in Sabine County, Texas.
There just isn't much going on at the moment. I did talk to one of my best grapevine sources today and all he could tell me, which WAS fairly important to some, is that both his mom and his dad were paid two weeks ago for their respective leases with Devon. The money's in the bank.

Oh, and those leases were signed around the second week of Sept. if that helps.