ALongview,
I have not gotten a letter but it is likely Seitel Data on my land also. Do you know the date of your letter ?
We have trouble with mail, too many grand kids :-)
In a lease 4.6 miles southeast from Aiken, in the Angie (James Lime) Field, the Timberstar-Mills B Well No.6H will be drilled by Southwestern Energy Production Co. This well will be drilled to a depth of 7,800-feet in the HT&B RR Co. Survey, A-154.
Southwestern Energy Production Co. will drill the Timberstar-Mills B Well No.8H to a depth of 7,800-feet. This well will be located 4.9 miles southeast from Aiken in the HT&B RR Co./Mills, L J Survey, A-575. This well will be drilled in the Angie (James Lime) Field.
The Timberstar Well No.4 will be drilled 12.6 miles southwest from Center in the Angie (James Lime) Field. This well will bottom at 9,500-feet in the Howard, S L Survey, A-162 drilled by Cabot Oil & Gas Corp.
I have ask a similar question earlier on this site but I cannot find any answer. If the mineral rights are undivided and some of the MR owners have signed leases but not all....Must the seismic company obtain signatures from ALL mineral riights owners? Do all mineral rights owners regardless of leased or not leased have to give permission to the seismic company to perform testing? What is a reasonable price to charge per acre for your signature?
The answer to your question is no. In Texas, seismic testing can be done with any portion of the undivided mineral estate under seismic agreement...or any portion of the undivided mineral estate under an oil and gas lease with geophysical language. So in theory, you could have a tract where no one has signed O&G leases, and a 1% owner of the mineral estate has signed a permit...and the seismic company is good to go for the testing.
As for the money paid for permits...as far as I can remember, it's not even enough to justify having a discussion about. Probably anywhere from $10 to $50 per acre if I had to guess.
Seitel Data has been offering $15 an ac. for permission to do seismic testing in Shelby Co. I have heard of some people in other areas getting more after negotitaions; may have been a different company.
Thanks ogmladvisor,
Does everyone usually receive letters to alert the mineral rights and landowners of the intentions of the seismic companies? Do all of the parties of interest have rights to receive the information from the testing?
I would assume it varies from company to company on whether or not everyone gets notice...not sure there is any kind of law if that is what you getting at.
The information prepared by the seismic company is for sale to buyers...meaning they go do the shoot, and then turn around and sell data to interested parties, presumably the companies with acreage positions in the area. So know, the parties of interest do not have rights to receive information from the test...unless of course you want to pay for those rights.
Thanks ogmladvisor,
It would appear that a seismic company would not just appear in an area without an OG requesting the testing?
Where do we find the authorized permits? Where are they filed and who administers the permits? Thanks!!
Seitel Data
Take a look at their site:
http://www.seiteldata.com/
Wonder around a bit in the site, it is clear what they do and where and why.
But common sense says they are on many different land owners property.
That means many different forms of permission to do seismic.
But where they fail to have or get the legal right or permission they do have the Nerve ( with a capitol N to trespass).
Southern Timber Properties Well No. 1H is 5.4 miles northwest to San Augustine in the Angie Field. This well hit 12,730 feet and was drilled by Cabot Oil & Gas Corp. On a 64/64-inch choke the well potentialed 5.785 million cubic feet of gas per day in James Lime formation.
I have heard of the Sabine uplift a while back. Below is a statement from a knowledgeable individual (I won't give his name) about the Sabine uplift.
The maps for the Haynesville Shale that I have seen are all contained within the Sabine Uplift. there is a very good chance they are almost identical. If so all of San Augustine And Sabine are going to be leased and significant production will come from each well. Reports that I have reviewed suggest that each well could be capable of producing 5 to 8 billion cubic feet of gas. If this happens the total revenue over each wells life would be 50 to 80 million dollars. With 25% royalty that will produce a lot of income even though the royalty interest for each owner might not be large enough to be a "full well" it could still be quite substantial
I don't know much about zones but that particular map sure got me excited. I am still interested in what they found on the Donner in Sabine Parish, LA Maybe since it is flaring, we will hear something soon.
- Southern Timber Properties Well No. 1H is 5.4 miles northwest to San Augustine in the Angie Field. This well hit 12,730 feet and was drilled by Cabot Oil & Gas Corp. On a 64/64-inch choke the well potentialed 5.785 million cubic feet of gas per day in James Lime formation.
Timberstar-Waterman B Well No. 2H was completed by Southwestern Energy Production in the Angie Field. The well hit 13,110 feet and potentialed 10.551 million cubic feet of gas per day in the James Lime formation.
Lessor or anyone else,
Has anyone heard any test results or production results from Cabot's Katherine Von Goetz #3 in the Kimbro Survey, San Augustine County.
CL, There has not been any production posted (RRC) for KVG #3 as of this morning. I can't remember seeing anything posted in the ET Drilling Report either.
According to Cabot (I spoke with the in-house guys) the KVG #3 will be fracked (*?) sometime in January, and then we will know what it will do. Merry Christmas to all and a very prosperous New Year to all of you, and remember... Jesus is the reason for the season!!!
Thanks for all of the responses on the Katherine Von Goetz #3.
LESSOR: "Fracked" on the horizontal as a haynesville well or a James Lime well?
Merry Christmas to everyone both mineral owners and all employees of the O&Gs.
It's my understanding that the KVG #3 is a vertical 16000' well between KVG #1H and KVG #2H. How does "fracking" work on a vertical well? Just trying to understand the process, so any reply will be appreciated.
Thanks Jffree1,
Sometime ago I was under the impression Cabot would AMEND and take the well horizontal. The permit, to date, does not show an amendment.
Lessor;
Have you heard if Cabot is going to AMEND and take KVG #3 horizontal?
When a well is "potentialed" at 10mcf etc. is the infomation a result of depth testing or actual initial production?
cheerleader, it is actual initial production.
jffree1, according to my source: "the fracing method is the same whether in a vertical or horizontal well. It is pumping frac fluid -water that is gelled and mixed with frac sand - into the well. The pressure of the frac fluid actually creates fractures in the formation. Then the sand goes into the fracture. When you shut off the pressure of the frac the formation is held open with the sand. This allows for more production to flow out of the well".
Thanks sandstone,
Great description! If the OG finds good results fracing the vertical, can the OG amend the permit and turn in the same well and go horizontal?
Cheerleader--It could be re-permitted that way but it would not be cost effective to actually do it for production in the same formation. However, if you wanted to go horizontal in a deeper formation it could be done, similar to what they have done with the Donner in Sabine Parish.
They did put their holdings in Sabine County and SA County along with some land in NW Sabine Parish up for sale at auction. I did not ever see any results but would love to know if they received any interest.
I am pretty sure they had little to no interest at their inflated asking price, and the market had just tanked. Plus they were selling shallow and deep lease rights separately, trying to make a double-killing.
They may turn out to be a case study on how oil and gas speculators get burned...the proverbial cat holding the over-priced bag. Good luck to those of you who leased to Eagle.
As far as I know, they are completely unrelated to EOG, as EOG is formerly "Enron Oil & Gas", not "Eagle Oil".
The ADJ Minerals BP Well No. 1H will be drilled in the Angie (James Lime) Field to 7,600 feet. Location is 6.2 miles southeast of Aiken in the Bruce, CG/Wren, TL Survey, A-596. Operator in charge is Southwestern Energy.
I wasn't disputing that Eagle Stone and Eagle Oil are not one in the same...you are correct, and this is a statement that I can verify. But when you mention "EOG", you are referring to EOG out of Tyler, formerly Enron Oil & Gas...who were also leasing in this very same area.
I leased my land in June 08 to EOG Resources at $450.00 acre this was 2 weeks or so before my neighbors were getting $2000-$5000 per acre. but at least I got my money lots that signed for the $5000.acre never got paid.
ALongview
Dec 3, 2008
ALongview
Dec 4, 2008
etx44
I have not gotten a letter but it is likely Seitel Data on my land also. Do you know the date of your letter ?
We have trouble with mail, too many grand kids :-)
Dec 4, 2008
ALongview
13th of November I think, but it did not arrive til a few days ago.
Dec 4, 2008
intrepid
In a lease 4.6 miles southeast from Aiken, in the Angie (James Lime) Field, the Timberstar-Mills B Well No.6H will be drilled by Southwestern Energy Production Co. This well will be drilled to a depth of 7,800-feet in the HT&B RR Co. Survey, A-154.
Southwestern Energy Production Co. will drill the Timberstar-Mills B Well No.8H to a depth of 7,800-feet. This well will be located 4.9 miles southeast from Aiken in the HT&B RR Co./Mills, L J Survey, A-575. This well will be drilled in the Angie (James Lime) Field.
The Timberstar Well No.4 will be drilled 12.6 miles southwest from Center in the Angie (James Lime) Field. This well will bottom at 9,500-feet in the Howard, S L Survey, A-162 drilled by Cabot Oil & Gas Corp.
Dec 7, 2008
Cheerleader
Dec 7, 2008
ogmladvisor
As for the money paid for permits...as far as I can remember, it's not even enough to justify having a discussion about. Probably anywhere from $10 to $50 per acre if I had to guess.
Dec 7, 2008
Lady
Dec 7, 2008
intrepid
Dec 7, 2008
Cheerleader
Does everyone usually receive letters to alert the mineral rights and landowners of the intentions of the seismic companies? Do all of the parties of interest have rights to receive the information from the testing?
Dec 7, 2008
ogmladvisor
The information prepared by the seismic company is for sale to buyers...meaning they go do the shoot, and then turn around and sell data to interested parties, presumably the companies with acreage positions in the area. So know, the parties of interest do not have rights to receive information from the test...unless of course you want to pay for those rights.
Dec 8, 2008
Cheerleader
It would appear that a seismic company would not just appear in an area without an OG requesting the testing?
Where do we find the authorized permits? Where are they filed and who administers the permits? Thanks!!
Dec 8, 2008
ogmladvisor
Dec 8, 2008
etx44
Take a look at their site:
http://www.seiteldata.com/
Wonder around a bit in the site, it is clear what they do and where and why.
But common sense says they are on many different land owners property.
That means many different forms of permission to do seismic.
But where they fail to have or get the legal right or permission they do have the Nerve ( with a capitol N to trespass).
Dec 9, 2008
JWC
Southern Timber Properties Well No. 1H is 5.4 miles northwest to San Augustine in the Angie Field. This well hit 12,730 feet and was drilled by Cabot Oil & Gas Corp. On a 64/64-inch choke the well potentialed 5.785 million cubic feet of gas per day in James Lime formation.
Dec 14, 2008
JWC
Dec 19, 2008
Sandstone
Dec 19, 2008
JWC
The maps for the Haynesville Shale that I have seen are all contained within the Sabine Uplift. there is a very good chance they are almost identical. If so all of San Augustine And Sabine are going to be leased and significant production will come from each well. Reports that I have reviewed suggest that each well could be capable of producing 5 to 8 billion cubic feet of gas. If this happens the total revenue over each wells life would be 50 to 80 million dollars. With 25% royalty that will produce a lot of income even though the royalty interest for each owner might not be large enough to be a "full well" it could still be quite substantial
Dec 19, 2008
Sandstone
Dec 19, 2008
Norwood, W
Sunday, December 14, 2008
San Augustine County
- Southern Timber Properties Well No. 1H is 5.4 miles northwest to San Augustine in the Angie Field. This well hit 12,730 feet and was drilled by Cabot Oil & Gas Corp. On a 64/64-inch choke the well potentialed 5.785 million cubic feet of gas per day in James Lime formation.
Dec 19, 2008
JWC
Timberstar-Waterman B Well No. 2H was completed by Southwestern Energy Production in the Angie Field. The well hit 13,110 feet and potentialed 10.551 million cubic feet of gas per day in the James Lime formation.
Dec 21, 2008
intrepid
Dec 21, 2008
JWC
Dec 21, 2008
JWC
Dec 21, 2008
Cheerleader
Has anyone heard any test results or production results from Cabot's Katherine Von Goetz #3 in the Kimbro Survey, San Augustine County.
Dec 23, 2008
jffree1
Dec 24, 2008
jffree1
Dec 24, 2008
JWC
Dec 24, 2008
Lessor
Dec 24, 2008
Cheerleader
LESSOR: "Fracked" on the horizontal as a haynesville well or a James Lime well?
Merry Christmas to everyone both mineral owners and all employees of the O&Gs.
Dec 24, 2008
jffree1
Dec 25, 2008
Cheerleader
Sometime ago I was under the impression Cabot would AMEND and take the well horizontal. The permit, to date, does not show an amendment.
Lessor;
Have you heard if Cabot is going to AMEND and take KVG #3 horizontal?
When a well is "potentialed" at 10mcf etc. is the infomation a result of depth testing or actual initial production?
Dec 25, 2008
Sandstone
jffree1, according to my source: "the fracing method is the same whether in a vertical or horizontal well. It is pumping frac fluid -water that is gelled and mixed with frac sand - into the well. The pressure of the frac fluid actually creates fractures in the formation. Then the sand goes into the fracture. When you shut off the pressure of the frac the formation is held open with the sand. This allows for more production to flow out of the well".
Dec 26, 2008
Cheerleader
Great description! If the OG finds good results fracing the vertical, can the OG amend the permit and turn in the same well and go horizontal?
Dec 26, 2008
Sandstone
Dec 26, 2008
intrepid
Jan 1, 2009
Norwood, W
Jan 3, 2009
JWC
Jan 5, 2009
ALongview
Jan 5, 2009
Norwood, W
www.energyspectrumadvisors.com/details_engagements.php?id=147
www.energyspectrumadvisors.com/admin/data/upload/Asset_Summary_and_CA.pdf
Eagle Stone Energy Partners... I'm thinking this is and EOG sub company? Possibly partnering with Energy Spectrum Advisors, Inc?
I have not seen anything new about the sale since... perhaps someone that can investigate the internet better for more clues?
Dunno...
Jan 5, 2009
ogmladvisor
They may turn out to be a case study on how oil and gas speculators get burned...the proverbial cat holding the over-priced bag. Good luck to those of you who leased to Eagle.
As far as I know, they are completely unrelated to EOG, as EOG is formerly "Enron Oil & Gas", not "Eagle Oil".
Jan 5, 2009
Norwood, W
http://www.energyspectrumadvisors.com/details_engagements.php?id=147
has the same Logo as Eagle Oil & Gas Co.
http://www.eagleog.com/about/about.html
(Owned by the Bolin Family as stated in our lease agreement)
As seen in each web sites...
Enron Oil and Gas is totally different..
Jan 5, 2009
Norwood, W
Sunday, January 04, 2009
DEVELOPMENTAL
San Augustine County
The ADJ Minerals BP Well No. 1H will be drilled in the Angie (James Lime) Field to 7,600 feet. Location is 6.2 miles southeast of Aiken in the Bruce, CG/Wren, TL Survey, A-596. Operator in charge is Southwestern Energy.
Another one close to the northern border...*sigh*
Jan 5, 2009
ogmladvisor
Jan 5, 2009
DR
http://www.eaglerockenergy.com/
Jan 5, 2009
Doug Fitzgerald
Jan 6, 2009
Shelley
Jan 8, 2009
JWC
Jan 15, 2009
JWC
Jan 15, 2009
Cheerleader
Where is Farmbrad's post about the Goodwin area? Was it on this San Augustine group site?
Jan 17, 2009