INTERESTING AND UNLIKELY PROPONENTS OF RENEWABLES AND A PRICE ON CARBON

With its previously announced plans to develop solar and wind power, Saudi Arabia hopes one day to be exporting “gigawatts of electric power” instead of fossil fuels.

Link to full article          http://time.com/3903220/middle-east-renewable-energy/

Big Oil Companies Want a Price on Carbon. Here’s Why.

Natural-gas profits have Shell and BP, among others, calling for increased use of carbon-emissions fees ahead of a make-or-break climate summit in Paris.

Link to full article       http://www.nationaljournal.com/energy/climate-change-fracking-paris...

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Permalink Reply by Joe Aldridge on June 10, 2015 at 5:41

My problem with NASA is they want to get funding from an administration that wants climate change legislation. So I don't consider them to be an unbiased scientific group. They have a dog in the hunt and that makes it political.

Its like NOAA taking away the recreational snapper fishing and giving it to a few charter and commercial operators - free!!!!!!. We did not vote right down here in the southern states so now we can't go catch fish in federal water.

Permalink Reply by Keith Mauck (Site Publisher) on June 10, 2015 at 5:52

I wonder what those 97% think of hydraulic fracturing? :) 

Permalink Reply by Skip Peel - Mineral Consultant on June 10, 2015 at 5:53

I suspect they think the same as the EPA.

Permalink Reply by Joe Aldridge on June 10, 2015 at 7:04

Just in, The EPA has imposed a carbon tax on the airlines. Skip, Do you see where this is going?

Permalink Reply by Hopeful About Natural Gas on June 10, 2015 at 19:22

I remember those magazine covers! Yes, oftentimes the future isn't what we expect. Remember the predictions about famines?  Today, hunger is has been largely been eliminated (except for political causes).

I'm also late to accepting the climate change idea - for the same reasons given by Joe and I know less than Keith about advanced sciences!

However, I've been on this board a good while and noticed that Skip does a lot of study. He's right - this is an important article - if Shell and Exxon are calling for carbon "fees" then there is something to it or at least we should read up on it. That's a game changer.

Permalink Reply by Joe Aldridge on June 11, 2015 at 0:48

Actually, Exxon and Shell see the hand writing on the wall. They are hedging their bets and trying to get ahead of anything that comes out of this climate change meeting.

The EPA says that the airline industry is responsible for 10% of the carbon emissions. They are now going to be taxed on that assumption. That tax will go straight to liberal causes that do nothing to improve the industry. Its a pure penalty. I'm assuming that the auto industry will be next. Again Skip, do you see where this is going? Do you understand that this sets a precedent? If the UN decides to impose a world carbon tax we will have no way to fight it. Our government has already decided to tax carbon emissions. Where this goes will be like opening Pandora's box for taxes.

Permalink Reply by Skip Peel - Mineral Consultant on June 11, 2015 at 1:01

I've read several articles on the proposal so far and don't find any mention of a tax or the UN.  I see where this is going and I'm curious but not concerned.  Didn't run across any black helicopters either.

Permalink Reply by Joe Aldridge on June 11, 2015 at 1:06

The tax on the airlines was announced yesterday by the EPA. Get current with your posts.

Permalink Reply by Skip Peel - Mineral Consultant on June 11, 2015 at 1:10

When you get your news from biased sources you often get incorrect information.  There is no tax and, in fact, no regulation at this time.  There is a proposal with discussions to follow.

Permalink Reply by Keith Mauck (Site Publisher) on June 11, 2015 at 10:12

A proposal with discussions to follow just means, we've made up our minds, but we need to give this some semblance of a democratic process, wink wink..

Looks like the EPA and FAA are moving towards the international standard that the International Civil Aviation Organization follows and they are expected to develop an international market-based emissions reduction system for aircraft at its 2016 assembly. 

Would a carbon tax on airlines be a shock to anyone? We'll see.

Permalink Reply by John Matherne on June 11, 2015 at 10:23

I am ready to sell some carbon credits from forest land.

Permalink Reply by Skip Peel - Mineral Consultant on June 11, 2015 at 12:13

I think you should private message Keith.  He's thinking right now about a website for trading in carbon credits.

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