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Oil & Gas ProPermalink Reply by The_Baron on September 20, 2010 at 7:24

It is very common for pipeline companies to landfarm their spent mud. Many farmers will welcome such additions to their soil. Since they are not at any depth, and typically use native drilling mud, there is no danger (unless they are boring through a contaimanated soil).

Just ask for a list of ingredients to their mud, its not top secret or anything.

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landownerPermalink Reply by Mac Davis on September 20, 2010 at 8:24

There could be some concern that some environmental whack jobs would stir up problems years down the road. i.e. you can't sell your land, you get sued by someone downstream for pollution, sued by someone you sold the land to, the EPA wants to charge you for cleanup, etc. Or they put something legal and considered "harmless" now that they decide later is toxic.

Even if the claims have no merit, they can be an expensive pain in the neck. Imagine what the Gasland whack jobs would say.

I can't guess how likely any such problems are, but you should give it some thought.

Plus the chance that they actually DO put something toxic on your land without you knowing about it.

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landownerPermalink Reply by FXEF on September 20, 2010 at 13:37

Worn Out N1,

The link below may help you understand biodegradable.

http://www.newbiodegradable.com/more_about_biodegradation.php

They may be feeding you Bull.... and that's why they call it Bull Mud.

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landownerPermalink Reply by Jack Blake on September 20, 2010 at 14:51

jack Blake said bull mud is bullshit mixed with drillin mud. jack would have no part of it......nosireebob

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landownerPermalink Reply by Worn Out N1 on September 21, 2010 at 9:51

Thanks Jack. I needed that! LOL

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landownerPermalink Reply by Worn Out N1 on September 21, 2010 at 9:52

FXEF, thanks for the link.

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landownerPermalink Reply by Mac Davis on September 21, 2010 at 6:45

If nothing else, we've got a new term to use. For instance, "Mac Davis is full of bull mud."

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landownerPermalink Reply by benny688 on September 24, 2010 at 16:24

I'm not familiar with the term "Bull Mud" either, but over the years I think I have been through everything.

Even if they're just wanting to spread natural heavy clay subsoil from pipeline construction at 6' this will destroy the natural percolation of the topsoil, making your pasture unproductive for quite a few years. During dry weather it turns into concrete that sheds water, during wet weather it turns into a slimy, smelly mess with only algae growing on it.

Whether toxic or not, drilling mud has finer particulate matter that exacerbates this problem.

If you can't get them to level and haul off the excess soil I think it's best to just have this piled in berms for the rains to gradually wash away.

I guess you might call this "biodegradable" since spring rains do eventually wash this away.

GLTA

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landownerPermalink Reply by P.G. on September 24, 2010 at 17:10

Maybe someone could start a brick factory..

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landownerPermalink Reply by benny688 on September 30, 2010 at 14:04

I have the kind of heavy clay subsoil that put Marshall Pottery in business. Results from spreading may be different if you have fast draining sandy or gravel soils.

GLTA

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Oil & Gas ProPermalink Reply by The_Baron on September 27, 2010 at 8:23

The mud from directional bores for pipelines is not like like your typical drilling mud. A few years back we allowed some of thos mud sprayed onto our pasture land, whick was rather sandy soil. After being tilled in it improved the water retention and fertilty of the soil.

I agree I wouldn't want it just left on the surface, but once mixed with the soil it is a fine addition. Again let me be clear, this is not drilling mud I am talking about, but mud from the direction boring machines for pipelines.

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landownerPermalink Reply by Worn Out N1 on September 29, 2010 at 5:10

Thanks baron for the info. I told them to do it. I appreciate everyones help in the matter. They will pay me to spread mud on a low spot in my pasture. Plus they will buy some water from my pond. Not a bad deal.

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