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Comment by Ed Hill on September 8, 2008 at 8:11
Jaybird:

I think that Wilmer Sparks makes a good point. If it is indeed factual that there is no historical evidence that the shale does extend into these eastern parishes (Jacskon, Caldwell, etc.) then I too am curious as to how it can be said that leases currently being acquired in these parishes are for exploration of the Haynesville Shale. Does Haynesville have inside information as to the intentions of the companies acquiring these leases. How does one know if these leases are not being acquired for a Hosston play or a Wilcox play?

Using the logic that Haynesville seems to be using, can it not be said that leases currently being acquired in Vermilion Parish or Terrebonne Parish are not being acquired for the Haynesville Shale and that these landowners should be holding out for a minimum of $20,000/ac and 1/4th royalty?

Until the formation is proven to exist this far to the east, it is, in my humble opinion, a disservice to promote the existence of this formation in these parishes. There are probably numerous families in these parishes who could benefit from the bonus money that these companies are paying and from the potential royalty payments that they might be received from wells drilled. However, if the majority of the landowners in these parishes hold out because of the "possibility" of the Hayneville Shale being present, then there will more than likely be many Non-Shale prospects not getting drilled.
Comment by Wilmer Sparks on September 8, 2008 at 7:42
K. Bain:

Thank you for the information. I was involved in a peripheral manner with Anadarko's play in Jackson Parish so I am quite familiar with the success that they have had in that parish in regards to production from the Cotton Valley and Lower Cotton Valley.

While I am not a geologist or a geoscientist, I have had conversations these past few months with individuals who are. I was informed by these individuals that they have had the opportunity to review well logs, core samples, etc. from some of the wells that Anadarko had drilled in the Vernon Field with one of these wells being drilled to a depth of 16,159 feet. These individuals informed me that the Haynesville Shale was not evident in any of the material that they had reviewed. Now, just because the logs and core samples that they were privy to did not reveal the existence of the Haynesville Shale at a depth of 16,159 feet does not mean that the shale is not present this far east. It just means that there has not been any wells that have been drilled deep enough to disprove that this formation not being present this far east.

In regards to the western parishes, the Haynesville Shale had been drilled into on numerous occassions since the 1960's and there has been production from vertical wells drilled into the Haynesville over the years. Geologists knew that this formation was in existence in these parishes for a long time. As I stated in a previous post, I am unaware, as well as various geologist and geoscientists that I know, of there being any historical data currently available that denotes the existence of this formation in parishes this far to the east. There are theories about its existence, but there is no proof that I am aware of.

Like I previously stated, to provide a map on a public forum that leads individuals to believe that this formation is present in their parish simply based upon the fact that oil and gas leases are currently be acquired in their parish is somewhat misleading to me. I would like to see the evidence that Haynesville has to back up his assertion that the Haynesville Shale does extend into Jackson and Caldwell Parishes.
Comment by Jaybird on September 8, 2008 at 7:28
This is a very interesting map. Where/who produced it? It looks mighty impressive and it looks to be correct on the leasing activity. It's funny how when the landowners see such a map that it might be helpful to them, their is always going to be someone who knocks it down and says it's not correct. Even when the State Mineral board posted their interpretation of the "Haynesville Shale Potential"...immediately we had many people knocking down that map. I don't know who posted this map. But thanks for posting it.

Always remember...your land is not in it...and your probably going to be left out if you don't sign with us right now. :o)
Comment by K_Bain on September 8, 2008 at 6:28
http://www.gohaynesvilleshale.com/photo/photo/show?id=2117179:Photo...

Also - look at this scan from the Shreveport Times. From what I have read, a lot of this area is called the "Haynesville Sand Layer".
Comment by K_Bain on September 8, 2008 at 6:25
Wilmer Sparks - there was some drilling in Jackson Parish by Anadarko back around 2005 and it was quite productive. They said they were drilling in the Lower Cotton Valley layer, but that is what several of these companies are doing over here to get into the Haynesville layer.

Here is some info from DNR's website. It is a PDF newsletter: http://dnr.louisiana.gov/sec/execdiv/techasmt/newsletters/2001_2005...

BTW, Anadarko sold that field to EXCO: http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/companyProfile?symbol=XCO.N&a...
Comment by Wilmer Sparks on September 8, 2008 at 5:19
Haynesville:

On what information do you base the leases currently being acquired in Caldwell Parish as being related to the Haynesville Shale play? From all of the empirical evidence that I have seen, there is no evidence that the shale extends this far to the east. Do you have information to the contrary? If so, please post it on this website.

From consultations that I have had with geologists and geoscientists that I am acquainted with, the consensus was if the shale does extend this far to the east, it would be at a minimum depth of around 19,000 feet if not deeper.

I caution you against using this website to put information out to the public that is based on mere speculation and not fact. Just because leases are being acquired in a particular area does not mean that they are being acquired for the purpose of exploring for the Haynesville Shale.
Comment by Buck Man on September 8, 2008 at 4:37
We are in west ouachita parish and there is leasing activity in our area as well.
Comment by James on September 8, 2008 at 4:09
this is the best map I have seen that depicts what I think is the HS play...did you get it anywhere or just produce it yourself?

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