My father-in-law, who died many years ago, owned some mineral rights in LaSalle County near Gardendale.  A land man contacted us out of nowhere yesterday and offered $1,000/acre on the  mineral rights on A 1037.  We do not own the land and did not know he owned any rights there until yesterday.  We looked it up on the RR website and found that this lot is included in the pool for well 283-33393, which was permitted 7/17/12.  Can an oil company just start a well, then ask you if it okay months later and negotiate bonuses when they get around to it?  Has this happened to anyone else?  How can I find out how far along this is?  Thank you!

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Father in law is # 8 on the permit.  Unleased as of today.  This is JEA Unit VI LAS.  Our almost 20 acres are A-1037 Sec 64 Lot 32.  Thank you for your reply.

I sent you a friend request.

the unleased interests are free to contract and are not restricted.

This is not a perfect world, and the last sometimes get left-overs

O&G companies have money to drill wells. Mineral owners don't. O&G companies lease up areas and check titles to same. Some  mineral owners are undetermined and hard to find, and involve much searching. 

 

After spending much time and expense searching, existing leases begin to approach their termination date and need to be drilled.

A tract is selected for a drill tract that conforms to the requirements of the TRRC, and all interests are leased up. A well is drilled, to determine the economic feasibility of the prospect. If well is "keeper", other unleased interests in other tracts in the unit may be pursued. However, if the operator holds a lease in a tract, but not  on all of the undivided, hard-to-find mineral interests, it can pool the other tract in the unit, and does not have to lease up the unleased interests. Is the law, been the law, and will probably be the law for some time to come.

The unleased interests can drill their 'own well,, on their own tract, or lease to someone else, or force-pool their interests.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

volve much searching.

   

A few comments on the RRC website - for any well, the first thing that will happen is a W-1/drilling permit will be filed.  Operators will have surveyed the surface prior to this, and in some cases may have started construction on the pad site and access road.  The W-1 includes a survey plat, the location of the well relative to particular survey lines, and a basic description of the distance of the site from a town.  If you know about minerals owned by your family that are not leased, you may want to follow the W-1 for your county.  If you know the survey the minerals are located in, that can be used to cross check vs W-1 that are of interest to you.  Survey shapefiles are available from TNRIS - www.tnris.org and can be used by someone with mapping savvy and software to map pretty accurately.  Most survey plats will also include lat/long coordinates of the drill site.  These will suffice to spot the well on Goggle earth or something similar. 

After the well has been drilled, and completed, a completion report will be filed with the RRC.  Again, if you know of minerals owned by your family, and that drilling permits have been issued in and around your minerals, follow the completion reports for those wells.  The RRC is pretty lax on making operators file timely completion reports, so many times a well will produce for an extended period with no report.  Your best defense against this is to get to know some of the folks who own the surface and use them as your eyes and ears.  GHS and sister sites are especially helpful on this topic.  

One of the features I use on the RRC website is the GIS web viewer.  Its great for getting data on existing wells, but there if often a lag between when a well is permitted and when it shows up on the map, and a further lag to the point that it gets shown as completed on the GIS map.  The map can be a good tool for looking up data on old wells, but be advised that many wells are listed as "dry hole" when in fact they produced.  Also, wells may be listed as "plugged" when no verifiable plugging report can be found in the electronic record.

Be warned that Texas law/court precedent essentially says if you own minerals, you need to watch what is going on on your tract, as well as neighboring tracts, in order to protect your rights  

Dang Gummi,

Looks like the first money you need to spend is a donation to Kieth's website.  Maybe Skip will post the link for you.  Not sure how they say it in Californey, but here in the south it's "never look a gift horse in the mouth"  Just sayin'

Thank you for your reply. 

Thank you very much for your kind reply.  I can tell you really know what you are talking about.  The drilling permit was filed in July 2012.  My father in law was the county clerk there for many years and went into real estate.  he bought and sold the land and apparently kept the rights.  We had the court house searched last year but they came up with nothing other than the A335.  Then we got this call offering $1,000 per acre on 20 acres ready to be drilled. 

I do have a question.  How did we get into a pool and have a well on our land or will have soon (according to the landman) without any negotiations as to bonus money, lease payments, royalty, percentages and so on.  When we received a three year bonus money for the 1st pool in A 335, we had a contract.  We are drilled there and ready for fracking this month according to Chesapeake.   On this one mentioned above, there was no bonus money and we have no contract.  We have nothing even though everything needed, mailing addresses and phone numbers, including a prorated will is at the courthouse.  We made sure of that through an attorney last year.  Do we have to take what Chesapeake offers after the fact or am I missing the entire strategy here?  Again, I appreciate your help very much.

Thank you for your reply

so Chesapeake does not have to pay bonuses anymore for properties they want to drill?  That was my first question I believe. That is the law? 

Hi gummipuppie (neat name!)

I am a minerals owner like you. Other than in high school i've never worked for an oil company. Some of the people who have already responded are among our best members, both in knowledge and ethics.

GHS is unique. there is no other blog that gathers producers, consumers, regulators (who keep their heads low), media people and others interested in oil and gas. It's the most diverse group of people you could possibly assemble on one subject. I would stack the diversity of our membership (skills and backgrounds) up against any other O&G blog. I've told Keith that GHS is a historic website tracking the history of shale gas.

Like others have I also encourage you to make a donation to keep GHS going because you have gotten thousand of dollars of good info already - and you are welcome to stay and ask more questions.

best,  HANG

How would you know that I have gotten thousands of dollars of good advice on this forum?  Have you wasted time and money on me in the past?  How pompous you are!  How do you know whether I have made a donation or not?   Do I know you?  I don't think so!  I know that GHS used to be a fine forum and from reading much garbage lately, I am amazed that it has changed so.    After the insults here and the "dangs" and words like "crap" on most pages, I am thinking about leaving.  Have you read the Big Bird page and birther stories and conspiracy pages against Obama?  What we have there are a bunch of weird angry nuts veiled in "freedom of speech".  I fel like I am in a nuthouse reading those..  Let's see what those people contribute to this forum in the long run.  Look around you!   And just for the record, before anyone makes fun of my grammar again, English is my second language.  How many languages do you speak as well as I write this one?  Thank you for your time nevertheless.

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