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Permalink Reply by LP on August 25, 2008 at 6:20

Nelson 18- 1 Well # 237992 is currently at Haynesville depth and started in the horizontal direction. It's behind my property. I drove over to it yesterday and saw the depth location on their map.

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Permalink Reply by LP on August 25, 2008 at 8:12

Ah....no. Nelson 18 is another section. I'm in the section right next to it.
But....wishing for a barn burner there.

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Permalink Reply by Rick on August 25, 2008 at 6:35

Hey ya'll, it's good to see some folks talking about and questioning the plat for the Nelson 18-H-1, it is the well I have been mentioning on here for about 7 weeks now, I have had a copy of the plat in hand since back in May but I don't have any leasing experience and have not been associated with oil or gas exploration for severals years now.
I too have wondered every since I got the map from CHK's attorneys (Blanchard, Walker, O'Quin, & Roberts in Shreveport) what it is all about and now that I have learned a little more on HS I wonder how the Commission decides to grant some of these permits. The request says, (in addition to other wording that appears to be normal), paragraph 5, "Except to the extent in conflict herewith, to extend the provisions of OOC order No. 191-H effective Aug. 28,2007, as amended and supplemented by the 191-H Series of Orders, to the unit created hereby."
The plat map shows the radius measured 2000' into Sections 18, 7, 12, 13, 24, & 19 of T 15N, R14W.

As one of the few landowners in Sect. 18 and probably the only unsigned L/O in Sect. 18, I wonder when CHK will have to let me know what is going on; according to info Grice posted on here from LA 30.10, they are supposed to let all affected landowner know when the OOC grants force pools and unitizes my section. i.e...Any owner drilling may, by certified mail, return receipt requested, notify all other owners in the unit of drilling and give each owner an opportunity to elect to participate in the risk and expense of such well. Such notice shall contain; (1) An estimate of the cost of drilling, testing, completing and equipping. (2) The proposed location of the unit well. (3) The proposed objective depth of the unit well. All data from the unit well which is has not been made public.

Also, the L/O's in the other sections may need to be concerned about what the 2000' radius into their section means and whether this one well will tie down and HBP all 6 sections?

As stated in KB's discussion, the well site is shown at 1535' FWL and 631' FSL but the point of penetration is shown as 125' FSL and 380' FWL. It makes it appear that the well will be angled back approx. 500' toward south line and 1200' toward west line and then horizontal all the way across the section to within 250' of north line to the terminus, which would put it only a few hundred yards away from the Brenner Estate 7-H-1 termenus in Section 7.

I don't know what all this means, but the Nelson 18-H-1 shows on Sonris to be TD at over 11,000 ft after fishing and kicking off to finish the veritical drill and as indicated by the noise the rig is making, is apparently drilling the horizontal portion of the hole now. And I do know that the landman has suddenly gotten interested in my 1.16 acres and has left notes on my door twice in the past week wanting to "make you an offer I think you will be happy with". Well, I've got news for them, they are gonna make me an offer I can be happy with, one way or the other. They have let me sit here unsigned and unnotified during the 3 1/2 months of activitiy, and I don't have a problem at all sitting here and waiting for production numbers. If this well is gonna tie down 6 sections, it should command one HECK of a bonus!!

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Permalink Reply by Rick on August 25, 2008 at 7:41

KB, I received 3 letters from attorneys in May, and June of the application process but have not had any other contact since telling me that they were granted nor that I was force pooled and unitized. No more contacts at all but landman did come around this week and left a note on my door asking me to contact him

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Permalink Reply by insomniacnla on August 25, 2008 at 6:43

Hey Rick,

My take is that the 2,000 ft. radius is just to show that there are no other wells within that 2,000 feet and not that it will tie down production for other sections.

It appears that this application is for unitization of section 18 and the order just went into effect I think on Aug, 13, 2008. That might be why you have not received any notices of their activities as an unleased landowner. That might also explain why the landman is wanting to talk to you about leasing. LOL

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Permalink Reply by insomniacnla on August 25, 2008 at 6:54

KB,

I am not meaning to not let Rick reply, I hope that he does so we can all learn by his experience. But, the lack of proper notice happens more often than you would think and everyone lays it off on someone else. I have been one of those landowners that was force pooled in a unitization and never received notice of it. One of my neighbors in another section told me about a notice they received and that is how I found out. The responsibility is with the o/g requesting the unitization. The o/g company had been showing up at my house for 2 years prior to the notices being sent out. I have lived in the same place, same address for 15 years. The o/g company said that leaving me out of the mailing list must have been a mistake by their secretary. The P.E. said all he has to go by is the mailing list provided by the o/g company. The Dept. of Conservation said that as long as the o/g company placed a public notice of the unitization in a local newspaper, that is all that is legally required.

It ended up that the o/g company did not drill so Rick will have to fill us in on what happens. I hope that Rick does not mind too much.

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Permalink Reply by insomniacnla on August 25, 2008 at 7:14

I totally agree. The o/g company had ALL of my information and had been hand delivering and mailing leases and drafts for to me 2 years prior. My neighbors to the west also did not receive notice either and there are only 8 houses in our entire section and only 5 in the 160 acre unit that was formed, so the mailing list was small to begin with. I look at it as another dirty trick the industry plays on landowners. I was happy about the unitization though. I had wanted to have the well drilled and for me to remain unleased. As I mentioned before, the o/g company decided not to drill.

I am still just waiting to hear back from the landman as to what day this week I sign on the dotted line. LOL

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Permalink Reply by M. Mcwilliams on August 25, 2008 at 7:28

Good Labor Day present for you, insomniac! I still need to call the various folks.

I have not looked at that order, nor followed this thread closely, but does this order appear to have an effect on all Haynesville Zone units in the Caspiana field? Is it something I need to get up to speed on for future reference?

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Permalink Reply by Rick on August 25, 2008 at 7:58

Thanks to all for your input, I will post more info as things happen. I feel sure that I am not the only one in north LA that this is happening with so maybe others can add something too.
I am not opposed to the drilling and I wish the best for the Nelson family and the other landowners in Section 18, but as a small, inconseqential landowner that was sitting here minding my own business, not bothering anyone nor seeking financial windfalls from anyone, I find it a little unsettling that ANY company can come into the section that my land is located in and do whatever they want just because other landowners gave them the right and they the company felt like they didn't even need to consult me. To me, it is no differnt than if I came home one day and someone was cutting my trees because a landowner 639 acres across the section let them cut his, or if someone was loading my house or shed or other property onto a moving truck and tearing it down and taking it whereever their merry hearts desired because someone else in my section let the company move theirs.
I think EVERYONE affected should have the right to at least be contacted and consulted BEFORE things are moved instead of after the move takes place. It shouldn't be like, " Well, I see ya'll took my prize beef cow, Mr. Company person, and hauled him off and had him slaughtered and cut up and made into steaks and they sure look good on ya'lls big high dollar grill, so now, right before ya'll pour on the A-1 sauce and take a bite, ya'll are gonna contact me, the guy that PAID for and raised it, to let me know that he is missing out of my back pasture and I can quit looking for him because Joe Blow let ya'll take his cows and ya'll just felt obliged to take mine too, while you were right here close to my property anyway!!

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Permalink Reply by insomniacnla on August 25, 2008 at 8:09

The leasing is not done until the leasing is done LOL I am trying not to get too excited about it but it sure has meant so much to my son and I.

When the landman comes with the leases for us over here in Stonewall, he is supposed to bring some info pertaining to your section. Every landman I speak with says "Not my area" but this one said he will look at Bennie's and your section to see if CHK has an interest in leasing.

Bennie starts a new job tomorrow and is car pooling. He is going to leave his car at my house every day and meet his ride at my house. It sounded great to me, the more cars the less break-ins! It has been about 2 years for my neighbor and 4 years for me, the last time was Labor Day!

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Permalink Reply by M. Mcwilliams on August 25, 2008 at 8:16

I'll be writing you privately before the day ends, ok?

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Permalink Reply by insomniacnla on August 25, 2008 at 8:17

Okay, sounds good. I will also go back and remove a comment.

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