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Permalink Reply by P.G. on March 12, 2011 at 15:06

Be nice if every city would switch to NGVs and had open refueling access. That would make NGVs more attractive to private consumers.

Be nice to see Gasoline inventories max out due to lack of demand...

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Permalink Reply by MARG on March 12, 2011 at 19:46

 

  "I SECOND THAT," P.G.!!!!!  AMEN!!!   WOULD MAKE MANY OF US VERY HAPPY!!!!

     

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Permalink Reply by essay on March 14, 2011 at 5:04

This is what I've been saying all along, states will lead the way on this issue in the foreseeable future.  Our federal system is too dysfunctional to hope for much in the short term.

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Permalink Reply by little ole 1st grade teacher on March 14, 2011 at 16:25

AMEN to that!!!

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Permalink Reply by P.G. on March 14, 2011 at 10:55

Once NG gains a good foothold in the transportation market, Petroleum won't like having to compete with coal prices like NG seems to be stuck doing, huh?

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Permalink Reply by Shaleeee on March 14, 2011 at 15:10

How will NG compare to gas in cost and mileage for vehicles - How will we buy it - in BTU's?

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Permalink Reply by P.G. on March 14, 2011 at 16:18

Gasoline Gallon Equivalents
Fuel Type	Unit of Measure	BTUs/Unit	Gallon Equivalent
Gasoline (regular)	gallon	114,100	1.00 gallon
Diesel #2	gallon	129,500	0.88 gallons
Biodiesel (B100)	gallon	118,300	0.96 gallons
Biodiesel (B20)	gallon	127,250	0.90 gallons
Compressed Natural Gas (CNG)	cubic foot	900	126.67 cu. ft.
Liquid Natural Gas (LNG)	gallon	75,000	1.52 gallons
Propane (LPG)	gallon	84,300	1.35 gallons
Ethanol (E100)	gallon	76,100	1.50 gallons
Ethanol (E85)	gallon	81,800	1.39 gallons
Methanol (M100)	gallon	56,800	2.01 gallons
Methanol (M85)	gallon	65,400	1.74 gallons
Electricity	kilowatt hour (Kwh)	3,400	33.56 Kwhs

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Permalink Reply by P.G. on March 14, 2011 at 16:26

So if an equivalent amount of cng compared to a gallon of gasoline is126.67 cubic feet and a 1000 cubic feet of gas is selling at the well head for $4 per 1000, one could get about 7.8 gallons equivalent from a 1000 cubic feet of cng for 4 bucks! Figures about 52 cents a gallon... Not going to be that cheap though with mark ups, taxes, etc..

On my gas bill last month the gas company charged around $7.50 per 1000 cubic feet. That would make cng equivalent a little under a buck a gallon if I had one of those home filling devices..

Of course this is if my math is correct.

So lets see, if you bought 20 gallons of CNG equivalent for buck versus 20 gallons of gasoline for $3.50, the American gas company would charge you $20 versus $70 for the terrorists....

 

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Permalink Reply by Shaleeee on March 15, 2011 at 13:09

P.G., you are brilliant - thanks so much for the post - still trying to wrap my mind around the numbers - now if the mileage is better with cng than gasoline "sunny days are (hopefully soon) here again"!

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Permalink Reply by P.G. on March 15, 2011 at 14:00

http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/natural-gas-2008-honda-c...

 

Here they are test driving the Honda GX and comparing costs of fuel..

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Permalink Reply by Shaleeee on March 15, 2011 at 14:19

Informative article - 5.6 cents per mile compared to 14 cents per mile would be an incentive for me to drive to Coushatta to refuel - I was talking to a person this weekend that said he had checked on converting his truck to cng and it would be about $3000. Thanks

 

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Permalink Reply by awharris on March 16, 2011 at 10:07

Bossier City (2580 E Texas St) has a public CNG refueling station.  The price updated 3/8/2011 is $2.59 per gasoline gallon equivalent.

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