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Permalink Reply by olddog573 on November 24, 2009 at 8:09

Fite oil and gas recently did a well and there is no way in he** I would let them put the left overs from that water pit on my land

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Permalink Reply by John Avatar on November 24, 2009 at 9:01

You can spot the backfilled drilling pits from wells from the air, because they are always greener than the area surrounding them

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Permalink Reply by buzzy on November 24, 2009 at 9:13

Why are they greener?

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Permalink Reply by The_Baron on November 24, 2009 at 9:30

backfilled pits are immediatly fertilized and seeded with fast growing grass (usually rye grass) to prevent erosion

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Permalink Reply by John Avatar on November 24, 2009 at 9:38

The ones I speak of have been that way for fifty years, weren't fertilized or seeded or specially treated in any way.

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Permalink Reply by The_Baron on November 24, 2009 at 9:30

There are many methods for disposing of the fluids in reserve pits.

For fresh water drilling mud, keep in mind that its just a mixture of bentonite, a few chemicals (usually common chemicals to control ph), and water. Shallow wells that require less mud weight, will have a drilling mud with more water.

We typically will dispose of our drilling fluids in two ways, 1)haul offsite to a disposal well or 2) apply to land and/or bury in the reserve pit. We have had our reserve pits tested before and after operations to determine in there is any negative impact (required in LA on all wells deeper than 5000'). To date we have never had a problem. The drilling mud will have an increased concentration of photphates (better known by farmers as fertilizer).

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Permalink Reply by P.G. on November 24, 2009 at 13:43

Maybe they should sell the mud! Anyone priced fertilizer lately?

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Permalink Reply by Mac Davis on November 24, 2009 at 14:58

Consider whether there's any "stigma" attached.

Even if there is no technical environmental consequences in your particular case, do you end up with buyers being unwilling to buy because your land was used as a "waste dump?" Will you end up on some sort of list of waste disposal sites in SONRIS or elsewhere? If one drilling company dumps nasty stuff into a "land farm" in the future, do all "land farms" end up with a stigma attached or with environmental regulations and restrictions.

I'm not saying "don't do it." I'm saying to consider the risks.

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Permalink Reply by Bobi Carr ("parker") on November 24, 2009 at 17:18

Search for this discussion over in the Texas side. I remember reading some interesting statements about it.

I was approached several years ago when a site was put on a tract of my land. I turned it down because I was affraid of how it would affect re-sale value.

Perception = reality.

If it is perceived to be bad by a buyer then it is bad.

And it is ALWAYS important to disclose EVERYTHING.

I don't think I would have been as picky if it was on "my" property, but you need to be extra cautious if you intend to sell it. IMHO.

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Permalink Reply by Bobi Carr ("parker") on November 24, 2009 at 18:26

I found the topic for you. Here is the link.

http://www.gohaynesvilleshale.com/group/sanaugustine/forum/topics/f...

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Permalink Reply by The_Baron on November 25, 2009 at 5:37

Many farmers love to get the chance to have drilling muds spread on theirland. It is especially good when you have poor sandy soils.

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Permalink Reply by fred on November 25, 2009 at 12:33

I visited the site and saw the pit. I took out a cup of the water(?) from the pit. The cup of liquid looked like coffee and oil mixed together. It smelled like watered down gasoline. While the liquid is watery, it made me wonder how this nasty mix could be good for my land when sprayed on it.

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