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Comment by Mark Taylor on March 25, 2010 at 1:52

It seems that there is a huge supply of natural gas in the US right now. This map is encouraging, for we have 800 acres in Caldwell, just by the Jackson Parish line, section 15N,township 2 E. I keep praying that the lease prices will stay high and the leases will continue to move East.

Comment by Ed Hill on September 9, 2008 at 4:58

Mr. Gray Sands:

You most recent post gives the impression that there is a conspriacy being perpetrated between the oil companies and the Office of Conservation to purposely "hide" the Haynesville Shale in many areas through the issuance of Field Orders. If one is to believe that this is true, then there would have to be numerous employees at the Office of Conservation (from the lowly geologist/engineer to the highest administrator) in on the fix and that the oil companies are making huge payoffs to these people to keep them in line. C'mon man, you can't really believe this do you?

Haynesville:

I really can't say how the Mineral Board came up with the plat that it put out. Obviously it was someone's interpretation but I sure am curious to know what evidence they had in hand to base their interpretation on. I can say that in the dealings that I have personally had with the Mineral Board in the past, it is highly unusual for them to produce a map like this. Their realm of responsibility is to handle the leasing of state owned lands and water bottoms. If my memory serves me correct, the Mineral Board does not directly employee any geologists or engineers. They have always used personnel from the Office of Conservation or the Office of Mineral Resources to help make decisions on lease matters. Why they choose to put out a map like this on their own is very curious. Maybe is does have something to do with the fact, as Mr. Sparks stated in a previous post, that the person who heads of the State Mineral Board is an extremely large landowner in Caldwell Parish.

My whole point in making these posts is that you cannot say as a fact that the leases that are currently being acquired in Jackson or Caldwell Parish are being acquired with the intent of exploring for the Haynesville Shale. Unless you are privy to some inside knowledge, it is mere speculation at this point to say that these leases are being acquired for exploration of the Haynesville Shale.

Comment by Keith Mauck (Site Publisher) on September 9, 2008 at 2:21

How did the mineral board get their map?

I chose to name the map "leasing activity" rather than "location of the shale." I would never purport to know where the shale actually is...i'll leave that to those who drill, but this is representative of the leasing activitiy currently going on...under the umbrella of H-S.

Comment by Ed Hill on September 9, 2008 at 2:01

Mr. Grays Sands:

Using your logic stated by you in your post, then it can be said that every lease currently being acquired in the entire state of Louisiana is for Haynesville Shale exploration. Let's expand it further and say that every lease currently being acquired in the entire United States is for potential Haynesville shale exploration. Heck, I bet the shale extends over to Saudi Arabia and it's only a matter of time before they start going horizontal over there.

My point in all of this is that we don't know the boundaries of how far the shale extends out in all directions. The only evidence that we have at this point as to its boundaries of this play is from the wells that have been drilled in the shale.

As Mr. Sparks states in one of his post (I do not know him but he seems to make rational points in his posts) is that there is no current evidence to show that the shale does extend over into Jackson and Caldwell Parishes and to represent on a map that there is "current leasing activity" being conducted specifically for the purpose of shale exploration without having any type of evidence to support this whatsover is both false and misleading.

Comment by Ed Hill on September 8, 2008 at 12:01

Jaybird:

You are right when you say that natural gas is natural gas. The problem that is being exasperated by the current Haynesville Shale is the volume of natural gas being produced from these wells.

If I drill a well and get production from a Hosston well flowing at 2mcf per day, this is a pretty decent well. I can now try to offset this well by acquiring leases in an area that adjacent to this well for the purpose of drilling another well. I realize that I may have to pay a little more bonus and/or royalty to these adjacent landowners because of the fact that I have proven that there is production in this area by the drilling of my first well. However, I do not and should not expect to have to pay 10 or 20 times more than what I had paid to the original landowners just because I made a decent well.

However, if I find production like was has consistently been found in these Haynesville Shale wells, then I would and should expect the frenzy to happen when I contact the adjacent landowners about leasing as wht is currently happening in the NW La. parishes.

It can be said that production is production but there are varying degrees of production that influence the bonus and royalty paid to landowners.

I agree with what Wilmer Sparks posted about the hazards of making bold statements about certain leasing activity without first having or knowing all of the facts in regards to said leasing activity.

Comment by Wilmer Sparks on September 8, 2008 at 11:29

Haynesville:

So in other words, there is no evidence to point to the existence of the Haynesville Shale in these eastern parishes other than the plat put out by the State Mineral Board as to the "potential" of the Haynesville Shale in Caldwell Parish. I am aware of leases currently being acquired in Caldwell Parish but none with the intent for the exploration of the Haynesville Shale. The information that I have is that these leases are being acquired for formations other than the haynesville Shale.

The Secretary of the State Mineral Board is Marjorie McKeithen. Ms. McKeithen is a huge landowner in Caldwell Parish. I find it interesting that the agency that she oversees puts out a plat touting the "potential" area covered by the Haynesville Shale and it just so happens to include the parish that she owns thousands of acres in.

Again, I caution you against posting a plat denoting that there is leasing activity taking place in a parish specifically for exploration of the Haynesville Shale based upon, at best, flimsy evidence. There is nothing that I have seen posted on this website to date that indicates that there has been any leasing activity conducted in either Jackson or Caldwell Parish for the purpose of exploring for the Haynesville Shale formation.

Comment by Keith Mauck (Site Publisher) on September 8, 2008 at 10:49

The picture is a compilation of maps and activity as reported here on the site. Caldwell parish was borrowed from the Shrevetimes map which had it included in the play.

Comment by Oil Neophyte on September 8, 2008 at 8:47

Don't kwon what happened with all of that junk at the end of my post. Obviously, I pushed a wrong button. I'm not to good with computers and this fact was proven by my post.

Comment by Oil Neophyte on September 8, 2008 at 8:36

My family owns acreage in Jackson Parish but it is right on the parish line between Jackson and Caldwell (100 acres off of Hwy 4). My brother-in-law is a geologist in Houston who works offshore projects for Shell.

I asked him about the Haynesville Shale in regards to our family acreage. He said that he checked with some geologist friends who work for Petro Hawk. They told him that based upon the data that they had reviewed (old seismic, etc.), they felt that there was a strong possibility that the Haynesville Shale did not extend to where our property is located and even if it did, it would be at a depth that would not be favorable for drilling. My brother-in-law said that the Haynesville Shale tapers off as it extends eastward from Caddo Parish, etc. My family was upset when he told us this because I was hoping that we would be able to cash in on some of the big bucks that I have been reading about being paid in the NW parishes. I hope that my b-i-l and his friends are wrong and that is does in fact extend this far to the east.

We has leased this acreage about 5 years ago to Devon Energy but they drilled a dry hole about 2 miles away from our property and it killed any further drilling. I believe that they were looking for Hosston/Cotton Valley sands.

I can say that if we are approached about leasing, we will want a fair deal and will not lease for pennies. The last time that we leased, we received $175/ac and 1/5th from Devon. My father makes all of the decisions about leasing and I will advise him to look at this site before deciding to lease.

Just my 2 cents.




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Comment by Jaybird on September 8, 2008 at 8:31

Ed,
I agree with you and Wilmer Sparks and would like to know if "Haynesville" knows something more than what is being said on here. Where did that map come from? Waiting on that answer.

Does it have to be Haynseville Shale, could it be Bossier Shale, Lower Cotton Valley, or Hosston. Natural Gas is what it is...Natural Gas. They can call it what they want. I can honestly say that Continental Resources are leasing to target the Haynesville Shale because that is what they were saying in our negotiations with them. All other companies were saying no...South Claiborne Parish is not in the Haynesville Shale. But, I guess it boils down to who you talk to.

I would just be leary to where the Haynesville actually is...they still don't know the true boundries of it.

If anyone does know please do tell!

Jaybird

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