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Permalink Reply by Bacon on September 20, 2011 at 23:54

A general location and roughly how many rods would be helpful.  In Red River, $600 - $800+ a rod per pipeline isn't out of the question.  I wouldn't have a problem with multiple lines and 3rd party gas if they're paying per line.  You'll probably get a tighter agreement (and better advise) if you use an attorney.  You can usually add your legal fees into the agreement as well so it's kind of a no brainer.

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Permalink Reply by Eli on September 21, 2011 at 14:00

Been down that road,  and will use attny,  however,  just "dirty pool" going from their own gathering system,  to now, threat of eminent domain on their gathering system they represent as interstate carrier.  

 

Line is about 6,000 feet.  

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Permalink Reply by Bacon on September 22, 2011 at 2:39

We heard the eminent domain thing a few times.  Got served a couple times. Not from HK though.  It seems all you can do is keep bumping up the price and collect more from the next one.  They'll get the ROW one way or another.  You can call FERC in D.C., pretty sure they are responsible for all interstate lines.  They can confirm or deny that status but even intrastate has eminent domain so...

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Permalink Reply by Les Bamburg on September 22, 2011 at 3:07

Bacon, this would fall under the TRRC since the gathering company is a Texas intrastate and not FERC regulated.  By the way Eaglehawk appears to be owned 75/25 by Petrohawk and Kinder Morgan.

 

http://biz.yahoo.com/e/110510/hk8-k.html

 

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Permalink Reply by Eli on September 22, 2011 at 15:55

Good catch and appreciate the find.  Now I'll now WHO I am having to wrangle with.

No doubt the entity is an interstate carrier,  but if line only flows between two wells on our ranch,  and in to a line there after that is dedicated by the agreement,  limited to lease premise gas,  I have hard time understanding how the new line will serve interstate commerce requiring a permanent easement,  as opposed to an easement that terminates if the well quits flowing and no gas transports for 12 months.

 

I'm all for them moving gas,  just don't treat me like a mushroom - keep me in the dark and feed me a bunch of ...stuff.  Be up front and advise what they'd like, and we can negotiate.  But to try to run over me,  and claim it's for the "public good"  while their press releases state how lucrative the lines will be and will yield them big bucks,  that smacks.  

 

 

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Permalink Reply by Les Bamburg on September 22, 2011 at 16:08

Eli, this entity is not an interstate carrier hence the reason it is not FERC regulated.

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