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Permalink Reply by flex auger on February 21, 2012 at 10:04

I know of two (2) sections near me, one was the very first drilled in the fayettville back in 04 or 05 i believe, on a good friends place. The production seemed ok to everyone, it was at least paying gas, my neighbor was getting about 200 dollars a month in royalty off of 80 acres, i saw his first 6 checks in his hand on the way to the bank, us being rock famers thought it was from heaven. The next section which i have an intrest in, they ran into trouble with the land owner and could not locate a well where they wanted they tried 3 times in that section and all the wells are poor. I am sure there were other early "failures" so to speak but i know those first hand. They learned fast though and within the year everyone pretty well knew an average well and what it would pay etc. All the sections surrounding those section have been drilled and all producing well, so i am sure the two early troublesome sections have just as much gas as any of the better sections, they just were shooting in the dark on the first section kinda and the other one they could not get the "angle" they needed to perforate the pay zone at the optimum angle. They pay zone tilts down from west to east and is thicker on the west side, thus the angle needed was to drill from the south east corner of a section "up" toward the northwest corner of a section. I bet the learning curve will be similar in the brown dense. I believe muller said he would be happy with 100 bbls because he knew they could "improve" that 100 into 400 or 500. SWN has some very good engineers, like skip says, things may not make much sense on the first wells and i agree but through good science  it will improve.

Permalink Reply by flex auger on February 21, 2012 at 10:13

The driller (the man with the throttle in his hand) can mess one up. Too much weight or pressure on the drill bit from trying to drill to fast on the lateral will cause a "wavy" bore. Water will collect at the bottoms of these waves in the bore and restrict the well. They need a good somewhat level lateral, it actually needs to angle "up" allowing water to collect at the "heel" of the well and be easily pumped out. It is amazing the twist and turns they can make down there if they take their time,  i know of places they have drilled in a full circle through the corners of 4 sections.

Permalink Reply by The_Baron on February 21, 2012 at 11:24

The Brammer/Anderson well made quite a turn before they saw what was happining.

Permalink Reply by GoshDarn on February 21, 2012 at 11:13

flex, maybe your friend was paying the operator $200/month on 80 acres of royalty just to be friendly.

80 acres of mins. owned just by your friend and making that little each month? 

Permalink Reply by flex auger on February 23, 2012 at 2:20

GoshDarn, that wasnt much was it, but thats what it was, bad lease, bad well.  I will blow your mind with this, My 90 acres paid me $10,000.00 a month for the whole year of 2008. It has since dropped because gas has gone from $13 to almost $2, its not a direct reduction because they have been adding wells right along (two are scheduled this year) so royalties have held up pretty well considering. There will be winners and loosers in the brown dense, how good your lease is, how much land you have and how fast they develope it and how big the fairway is. People getting a nice royalty check will just put up a new mailbox when theirs gets ran over by a gas truck, people not getting a check will raise cane.

Permalink Reply by J N on February 21, 2012 at 17:04

Since it looks like the cat has already been let out of the bag, I guess it doesn't hurt to add that I've also heard what Smoke Green has heard. Reliable source, too.

Permalink Reply by obed w odom on February 22, 2012 at 4:39

JN, I hope you and Smoke Green  are right, but there remains the point that Les Turk brought up: how are they disposing of this much oil? I hope they are sending in trucks in the dead of night which no one has yet detected, but I'm not so sure.

Permalink Reply by Roger Booth on February 22, 2012 at 7:48

Do they ever run tests and decide how much it will produce then just turn the valve off till the pipeline is put in? Or just wait till they want to produce? Just wondering..

Permalink Reply by obed w odom on February 22, 2012 at 8:11

That could be what they are doing, but I understood Mueller to say they wanted to keep the valves open for an extended period in the hope that the well would undergo self cleaning with an increase in flow rate.

Permalink Reply by North LA on February 22, 2012 at 8:04

If they test for 1 hour and get 45 barrels then maybe they just do the math from there?? From what I understand IP rates don't mean a whole lot but they are fun when they are high.

Permalink Reply by Freighttrain on February 22, 2012 at 10:12

I have heard that the Roberson has gone into Production recently. Why would they turn any valve off since they are in fact, in production already? I am optimistic that this will be a great well but if no trucks are going in and coming out, especially if in fact that this well is producing 1000 bopd as some are hearing, then where is the proof of oil? No trucks moving in and out and no current pipeline available sure sounds like not much happening here. Then again, I am hundreds of miles away and surely aren't able to watch any goings on. Just seems like alot of stories and no proof so far. Come on February 27th!! Please make all of us happy. Very happy!!

Permalink Reply by Skip Peel - Mineral Consultant on February 22, 2012 at 10:21

SWN has a permit to flare gas for a limited time frame in order to test the completed well by sequential stages.  Until there is a natural gas pipeline in place, the ability to flow the well will be limited.  Those members who live in or visit the area south of the well may be able to help us figure a reasonable time line for unrestricted production by the progress made on the pipeline now under construction.

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