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Permalink Reply by nisie, not a happy camper landowner on February 5, 2009 at 6:11

My thoughts and prayers are with this man's family. I wish there was something we could do to comfort them.

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Permalink Reply by Wolverine on February 5, 2009 at 7:04

I am sorry about the worker!!! My condolences go out for his family!!! Wihing them well in a time like this!!!

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Permalink Reply by Wolverine on February 5, 2009 at 9:53

I agree with u on that ine Braveheart!!! Get the facts straight before claiming otherwise!!!

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Permalink Reply by Shelley on February 5, 2009 at 17:42

My heart goes out to his family and friends and the coworkers. They will be in my prayers and thoughts!

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Permalink Reply by Brad on February 5, 2009 at 18:31

What happen to this man could happen to any of us working in the field. As the saying goes if you hear what happened you are still alive. I have been doing the same kind of work for several years and what happened on this location is par for the course. Just three weeks ago we had a washout and had 7000psi (that's per square inch) blowing across location with no well control, luckily no one was near when it happened. You thank god that you weren't standing nearby when it happened and try to get everything under control. Bussiness as usual. The only reason the public is hearing about this is because someone got killed and another got injured. This has happen on location with me several times. Frac sand and high pressure are a bad combination. It gives no warning and is an instant problem. But it is a must to retrieve the product from the ground. We all know the risks and are willing to take a chance for the almighty dollar. I have quit in my mind many times and then wonder where I can go to work for the same wages and it doesn't exist. Get ready, there will me more accidents, just pray no one is hurt badly or killed.

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Permalink Reply by sesport on February 5, 2009 at 23:51

Brad - thanks for giving some of us here the perspective of what it's like. Indeed, we will say prayers for this young man and others that continue to do this and other hazardous work, for none of us truly know when our time on this earth will be over.

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Permalink Reply by KJK on February 6, 2009 at 16:06

Brad, who do you work for? I sure would not hire them. The industry takes safety very seriously and has a series of best practices that minimize these risks. To call this type of accident "Business as usual" is ridiculous.

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Permalink Reply by BirdDawg, plain ole' idiot on February 6, 2009 at 17:06

Ken,
You ever work in the oil field?
There are risk involved. Sure they take risk seriously, but they can't make them go away.
Sorry, but I think you live in a fantasy world.

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Permalink Reply by Brad on February 7, 2009 at 0:34

I didn't say the accident was bussiness as usual. I said that these types of issues were bussiness as usual. EVERY COMPANY has issues and you never hear about it because no one dies or gets hurt. They deal with it in the safest manner possible in that fraction of a second to think about it. Wash outs, ice plugs, valves that quit working due to stress, plug issues, holes blown in metal tanks due to sand, static electricity fires, NEED I GO ON? It happens all the time U just hope you aren't in the wrong place at the wrong time. And by the way Bird Dog thanks! I was friends with the guy that died and have been for almost 20yrs. I watched him play t-ball as a kid. I am sad and I am gonna miss him. The reality is that everyone in our profession takes a helluva risk and bird dog is right we cannot make it go away. We have to be the safest we can be and deal with all the other BS that happens. This is mother nature we are dealing with. Kinda like guiding a hurricane into a pipe and trying to keep it under control. Someone one told me one time that I needed to be careful out here that there were things that could kill me. I corrected them and told them that everything out here could kill me! I am not here for a pissing contest with anyone. I was just stating facts about the profession. "Can't we all just get along?" LOL

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Permalink Reply by KJK on February 7, 2009 at 15:05

Brad, I apologize that my previous post seemed so harsh and I offer my sincere condolences on your loss. I have been in the industry for 25+ years. You are correct when you say that our industry is full of risks. What I have read on this site leads me to believe that most posters know very little about the oil and gas industry and are only now starting to learn because they are fortunate enough to own minerals under what is developing to be one of the most significant developments in recent times. I get frustrated with the image most people have of the industry and by what are portrayed by TV shows such as "Black Gold". I guess the “business as usual” comment hit a nerve for me. Most of us who work in the industry are not a bunch of maverick cowboys that throw caution to the wind. Yes, the oil field is a dangerous place, made even more so since very few of the people working today have the experience needed to minimize these risks. But as an industry, we have strived to indentify risks and then take whatever steps we can to minimize or even eliminate them. I am sure there will be an investigation of this accident and hopefully lessons will be learned that my help to prevent it from happening to someone else.

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Permalink Reply by Brad on February 7, 2009 at 15:25

I didn't take offense to what was said. From what I hear (and you can hear anything) The sand knockout had 2 blow down vavles 1 hydraulic and 1 manual 2x2 plug valve simply for a back up incase the other 1 washed out. Plug valve was open of course to remain in good condition to be used as a backup. Hydraulic was opened to clean out sand knockout and was plugged as most of the time it will get that way when making sand. Then the sand broke loose and caused a surge going to the cleanout line going to pit. Surge caused line to whip striking him in the neck. I am sure someone had to be smart enough to make sure line was ancored. Anchors must have broken. Injuries like this aren't common but these situations are. Thanks for the reply back. And you are right every precaution is taken to try to nip these things in the bud. Sometimes one slips through the cracks. Heck I cut my teeth on 10k, dry gas and boxite - wasn't fun! But it makes you very cautious even with 100psi. I guess sometimes exposure to the danger makes you get used to it and a person can kinda look at it as bussiness as usual when life threating situations occur.

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Permalink Reply by Two Dogs, Pirate on February 7, 2009 at 15:44

KK, I would say that most that read the posts on this site know very little about O&G. They came here to learn. A lot of the posters know what they are talking about, that is why this site has grown to nearly 10,000 members in such a short time, thanks Kieth. Most members want to learn the legal end of their lease and what to do to make the best deal with the O&G companies. There are many on here that are veterans in the mechanics of drilling wells but know nothing about the leasing end. Some of these veterans may choose to keep silent for fear of being cut down by some of the smart ass people that lurk in the shadows of GHS. Most of the main posters will take up for a poster that has something of knowledge to say about the drilling of the HS wells. I for one would like to see more of these veterans of the oil patch contribute with their knowledge. The site is pretty good at shooting down the ones that are here to make a dollar. This man that lost his life will be remembered here on this site because most on here care.

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