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Permalink Reply by Checkmateking on May 21, 2009 at 11:36

The basin is the lagoon in which the shale was deposited 100 million years ago, I am not sure what map you are referring to but most of those maps are sketchy at best.

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Permalink Reply by Checkmateking on May 21, 2009 at 12:33

I see what you are talking about now, no the size of the play is the small darker pink.

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Permalink Reply by Checkmateking on May 21, 2009 at 14:17

I would assume she is referring to the Haynesville

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Permalink Reply by Checkmateking on May 21, 2009 at 17:24

The Haynesville/Bossier is the same play, there is no Bossier outside of the currently defined Haynesville play. The Bossier is in South Red River Parish/ South Desoto from what I have learned, and the Haynesville is called Bossier in Texas. That blob map you have pictured is nothing even close to the defined boundaries.

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Permalink Reply by BirdDawg, plain ole' idiot on May 21, 2009 at 15:43

Come on guys, for once and for all lets quit even looking at any genereic, outdated blob maps.
They mean nothing, and I, for one, am tired of looking at the same ones over and over on the main site and group sites.

Gray, I mean no disrespect, but most of these maps mean nothing, or at least that is my opinion.
Most of them are old, antiquated or just senseless drivel.

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Permalink Reply by The_Baron on May 22, 2009 at 3:27

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Permalink Reply by The_Baron on May 22, 2009 at 5:04

I agree with a lot of what you have said. I like this map because it gives an idea of what we think the conditions were when the HA was formed. Notice I said think. The great thing about geology is that every map is correct until you drill a well, we are always learnig more and updating what we know. I think that may people have a hard time thinking in terms of millions of years and have a hard time realizing that this area was once a shallow sea, which this map illustrates.

The problem with most maps is that they are created by big multi million dollar corporations, who have a vested interest in making it appear to their investors that they have it right. I agree that we need to be careful about looking at these maps as corpoations spend as much effort as they can making it appear that their leasehold is the "core area".

That being said, the boundries and locations of the formations on the map are approximate at best, and even in the "organic shale deposition" area conditions such as depth and tempeture varied widely creating sweet spots and not so sweet spots.

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Permalink Reply by BirdDawg, plain ole' idiot on May 22, 2009 at 5:25

Baron,
I have always found that map informative, and it does appear to be fairly accurate as far as what is know about the play.

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Permalink Reply by Jaybird on May 23, 2009 at 1:01

Gray,
Please continue posting information you find. I for one have enjoyed your posts and have used your maps and read the articles that you post. It's just another angle for me to look at. Keep up the good work, some of us enjoy reading and looking at different perspectives from all different angles. You may not have it right sometimes, but sometimes I am wrong...and I know that everybody on this site has sat back in their chair and said...damn...I got that one wrong and had to eat crow! As Bird Dawg said...he gets tired of looking at the same old/new maps posted by you. But that's ok... he can turn his computer off. It's that simple.

I am not a geologist, a landman, an operator, but I am a land owner trying to understand. That's all I am.

About a year ago, this site was used to inform and update the land owners about what is going on in and around the states of Texas and Louisiana. I used to enjoy asking Shale Geo questions and trying to learn more about this so called "Haynesville Shale Play". He discontinued his services because of the way the site has grown into basically a gossip website about non-geological issues. But the foundation of this site is a good one and fortunately you can still get questions answered from different "shalers" so to speak. I am very happy that this website was formed and I personally thank Keith for creating and trying to make this site better. I have been on this site a long time and can honestly say, without this site, I would not know anything about the oil and gas exploration process. I am glad it's here for me to use.

Post every map and article you find...I'll read the information and form my own opinion. Thanks in advance,


Jaybird

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Permalink Reply by BirdDawg, plain ole' idiot on May 23, 2009 at 2:28

Jaybird,
I will turn my computer off when I get ready.
I men no disrespect to Graysands regarding some of his posts. But when I go to different groups and see the same or similar maps posted on different group sites, I think that is repetitive. And then I have seen them posted on the main board, sometimes on different discussions, once again repetitive.
And yes, I do think it is a waste of time to have to scroll through the same info on different groups/discussions to see if anybody has posted any new or relevant info.

Maybe a group could be formed for the particular use of this type of posts.

And by the , either you have shale or you don't, and there are plenty of logs in Lincoln and Claiborne Parishs to tell.

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Permalink Reply by Checkmateking on May 23, 2009 at 5:20

I have plenty of Hanyesville Sand property, I wouldn't call that much of a sweetspot. It is very much hit or miss.

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Permalink Reply by BirdDawg, plain ole' idiot on May 23, 2009 at 8:34

CMK,
I agree 100%. And it dang sure has nothing to do with the Haynesville SHALE. I had an interest in 5 or 6 Haynesville Sand wells a couple of years ago, and we drilled a couple of dry holes right in the middle of our field. Go figure. Also, we made some good wells, some as good as 550 BOD, but now all of them are making 30mcfd and 5 or 10 BOD. Luckily I sold my interest in them last January for a tidy profit prior to their decline.

Now to the facts. This was posted as a "SHALE" related post. And it clearly has nothing to do with the SHALE.

And Jaybird, I with turn my computer off when I get doggone good and ready. Right now, I will continue to waste my time scrolling through senseless post to see it there are any relevant post regarding the shale. I agree, the group discussions (Lincoln and Claiborne) are a good place to put non shale related posts. But not a lot of repetative senseless maps that have nothing to do with anything. I like to go to these groups and see if there is any relevant info being posted. I post on Lincoln Parish all of the time because I drive to a lot of these locations almost daily and I have interest in some of these wells, and I like to keep up with what is going on.

These are some great wells and there is a lot of money to be made with some of them, but they are not Haynesville Shale wells.

Now, to address the issue of the maps. The Louisiana Mineral Board map has been posted on here about 30 or 40 times. It has no more relevance to the Haynesville SHALE now as it did the first time it was posted. Sorry, the productive or producable shale doesn't go to Caldwell Parish.

Like I have said before Graysands, either "you have shale or you don't have shale".

Fuzzy blob maps showing "basins" over the entire United States have no relevance to the Haynesville Shale. But please feel free to post them in the appropriate group discussions, if there is one.

I really think we should have a new group for these type of post, for the people that want to view them.

And Gray and Jaybird, when you have put your money into some of these wells, then you can try to "school" me. Until then, thanks for your info.

And now regarding the Louisiana Mineral Board map that you have so graciously blessed us with. This map has been posted about 20 or more times, and it has no more relevance to the Haynesville Shale now than it did the first time it was posted. The problem with this kind of post is that it may cause some unknowing individuals to have unrealistic expectations regarding the "Haynesville Shale" .
And that is not fair to some of our viewers. Sorry, the productive shale doesn't go to Caldwell Parish, and it won't go there tomorrow.

Gray and Jaybird,
I know you won't agree with what I have said, but it is the cold hard facts. If I have misled anyone here let me know, and let me know why.

Put your info where it needs to be, or make a new place to put it.

Please

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