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Permalink Reply by MarshallGirl on August 15, 2008 at 18:03

I have unleased land in Haynesville Shale, but also have leased land in Barnett Shale. Received first royalty check this week on 6 wells. Three of the wells started production in January and the other three started production in March. In the Barnett Shale 6-7 months after production is typical for the first check. We are leased with EOG.

Permalink Reply by MTA on August 15, 2008 at 19:27

Do you mind sharing how much per acre your royalty checks averaged? Were they about the same for each well or were there vast differences in production?

Permalink Reply by po boy on August 15, 2008 at 19:03

No royalties have been paid on the Haynesville Play as no product has made it to market yet. All the other royalties would be others production and not relevant to this forum.

Permalink Reply by linda on August 16, 2008 at 1:42

How do you know that no royalties have been paid yet in the Haynesville?
And what do you mean by "All the other royalties would be others production?"

Permalink Reply by BIGWOOD66 on August 16, 2008 at 2:36

Linda, I think Po boy is assuming that no one has been paid a royalty because no HS has made it to market. There is limited production, but has it been sold?? I don't know . "others" that he speaks of I assume are the older plays, LCV, Barnett, and whatever in in production in marketable quantity.

Permalink Reply by Grillin' - MmmMmm on August 16, 2008 at 17:40

Big: natural gas cannot be "stored" like oil so when its produced it has to go into a pipeline. There has been HS production sold so royalty payments are being accumalated. Maybe checks haven't made it but they will be soon. The accounting can take up to 2 or 3 months or more but since there is production over the last several months, there is sales of HS gas and those payments will be coming for those with wells/units that are on production.

Permalink Reply by Snake Stewart on August 17, 2008 at 2:29

Natural gas is stored under ground during summer and then sold in winter at a better price. I believe that they were trying to get further o.k.'s to use salt domes as storage facilities but was shot down in legislature.

Permalink Reply by Grillin' - MmmMmm on August 18, 2008 at 10:05

However, a company cannot put gas in storage without paying royalties. Plus, the storage caverns are not used by individual producing companies. They do not do that. Any gas flowing from HS wells is being sold to marketing companies, thus triggering a royalty payment. In fact, they don't have to sell it to a 3rd party to trigger that. And the marketing companies may put it in storage but that's a whole different kettle of fish.

Permalink Reply by Grillin' - MmmMmm on August 18, 2008 at 10:07

Yes, it is stored on a COMMERCIAL basis but not as a production option. See my post above for my further discussion. But producers do not store gas; it is commercially too risky for them to do it. AND more importantly, they would still have to pay you a royalty on it when they put it into storage. All of these storage facilities are owned by 3rd parties/mid-streamers. They aren't owned by the CHK's, HK's, XTO's of this world.

Permalink Reply by BIGWOOD66 on August 18, 2008 at 11:12

Gatrpaw u boys play nice.... LOL I said in my post "assume" as I assume no HS has made it to market, in quantity. I don't know. However I would surmise that the O&G did'nt just release gas or condensate into the atmosphere to come up with the numbers they come up with. How do they transport what they have, ie.15mmcf per day? Without a pipeline this would be difficult. What do they do?

Permalink Reply by Grillin' - MmmMmm on August 19, 2008 at 2:18

Okay, I made a statement that is incorrect if you ignore the ENTIRE CONTEXT of the discussion. Sorry Gatrpaw, Centerpoint is not a producer but yes, they store gas underground. So does Goldman Sachs via their commercial contracts/hedging. But they don't operate production wells.

My comment was around the general discussion of whether gas was being sold from the Haynesville. I made the leap of faith that those reading the post would understand the context...well operators produce gas to pipeline or they shut the wells in. They do not "store" the gas as can be done with oil in stock tanks. And just so you don't jump on this, yes, it can be flared but only for limited periods of time with the proper permits. But CHK, HK, etc. do not "store" gas and that was the basis of my "gas cannot be stored" post. Sorry I wasn't clear. I assumed the folks reading the post would understand the context. Guess I was wrong. Too many years in the business so I gave everyone the benefit of the doubt.

Permalink Reply by George James on August 18, 2008 at 11:05

Natural gas can be/is stored in salt domes and offshore.

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