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Permalink Reply by The_Baron on November 6, 2008 at 11:12

The birth records in HI are sealed just like in LA for a set period of time. The state simply verfied that Obama was indeed born in the state and issued a birth cert.

In LA birth records are sealed for 100 years. I don't know how long it is in HI

Permalink Reply by J on November 6, 2008 at 11:14

I think the main issue was whether he obtained Indonesian citizenship or not. The Supreme Court has issued a Writ of Certiorari which must be answered by December 1, 2008. So we will see how it turns out.

Permalink Reply by Ann W. on November 6, 2008 at 11:38

Has anyone heard the story that his paternal grandmother said she witnessed his birth in Kenya?

Ann W.

Permalink Reply by Lisa on November 6, 2008 at 15:32

I have heard all kinds of crap on this man no one seems to care. All I see is trouble and I don't want no part of it, but it seems I don't have a choice. And hey did you see how wonderful the markets are reacting to our new elect. Hummmmmmmmmm 12,000 lost here so far.

Permalink Reply by Alligatorshuz on November 7, 2008 at 6:29

Ann W. please read the United States Constitution and you will see...

Permalink Reply by Dorcheated A1 on November 7, 2008 at 9:29

You have never read the Constitution start with yourself

Permalink Reply by Alligatorshuz on November 7, 2008 at 6:27

Please people read the United States Constitution? If he was born outside of the United States his mother is an American Citizen so that makes him a U.S. Citizen.

Permalink Reply by CheetahBait on November 7, 2008 at 7:29

But to be president you have to be born on our soil - no ifs, ands or buts. His own grandmother in Kenya said he was born there and she witnessed the birth THERE. If we find out he lied and purchased or bribed a birth certificate from Hawaii, we can always throw him out of office and I would be glad to help him move.

Permalink Reply by J on November 14, 2008 at 5:54

McCain was born on a U.S. Navy Base, which is U.S. soil, and he had no problem providing the proper paper work to clear his name. I just want to know if Obama was born in the U.S. or not and he seems to have a problem with letting that information out. Even if he was born on our soil he still became a citizen of another country which would strip his status as a natural born citizen as well as his privilege to run from the presidency. You must be a Natural Born citizen, not a naturalized citizen. If he would just clear the air on the subject I would feel a lot better.

Permalink Reply by Bill G on November 14, 2008 at 6:23

The Media has invested entirley to much money to let this guys title be taken from him. We will never know the truth about Obama, lets just hope that he keeps this nation on the thin broken track its traveling on and try to get us headed in the RIGHT direction, or atleast not do to much damage!

Permalink Reply by Ann W. on November 7, 2008 at 7:47

US Law very clearly stipulates: 'If only one parent was a U.S citizen at The time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the Age of 16.'
Barack Obama's father was not a U.S. Citizen and Obama's mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means although she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawaii being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so, for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama's birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn't matter *after* In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama's birth when she was 18 in Hawaii. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama's birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not yrs 21 of age. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Citizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.
Ann W.

Permalink Reply by Lisa on November 7, 2008 at 9:40

This is true but you still have the Indonesian citizenship question. He went to live there when he was young with his mother and step father. He also went to school there for 2 or 3 years. At that time there was Marshall Law in Indonesia, so in order to go to school there his mother had to renouce his so called American citizenship because there was do dual citizenship allowed in Indonesia. If his mother did this the US does not allow anyone that denouces their citizenship to regain it through naturalization. So even if he was born in HI (which I don't think he was or he would have provided a certified copy of those records, with no problem) He still has no right to run for President much less be elected, but the problem with this situation is the DNC has the power to do somthing and no one ealse and we all know they will not do anything. ( they knew about it all and didn't carea) Sooooo we can not throw him out if time proves that he is not a citizen. But I do believe if this does come to pass somthing will happen, becasue the real Americans will not stand for this, it would be like we flushing our constitution down the drain.

So we basicly have three possible ways he may not be a citizen, no CERTIFIED birth record, Mother not being old enough at the time of his birth and the Indonesian citizenship.

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