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Permalink Reply by carolyn johnston on June 26, 2010 at 18:12

Jack Kerouac died in 1969 -" The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars..." Jack Kerouac, On The Road, 1957, US novelist (1922 - 1969)

Permalink Reply by sesport on June 26, 2010 at 18:13

Logger - Thanks for stepping in, most appreciated.

Please see this topic, and the related doc (for a quick idea, refer to p. 7) that I've posted back in the Health, Safety & Welfar group.

http://www.earthworksaction.org/pubs-others/HydraulicFracking_Wisem...

The EPA published it's conclusions in 2004 and no follow up has been conducted. The report contained little discussion of the impact of fracking in shale plays. The report also focused solely on impacts from the actual frac, not the overall process.

Again, I am NOT anti-drilling & producing, NOT anti- O&G ... but as you say, the GOM disaster and recent local incidents should be a "bell cow" as to how we should proceed from here on out. We've seen enormous economic impact, a way around our current fossil fuel related woes and the hope for improved national energy security.

Now to make sure that more domestic investors are involved before we end up with the same fiasco that the mortgage industry found themselves in.

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Permalink Reply by king john on June 27, 2010 at 11:51

squeak squeak squeak,

FACT: The bipartisan 2005 energy bill, a bill supported by then Sen. Barack Obama, clarified that Congress never intended hydraulic fracturing to be regulated under Safe Drinking Water Act (SDWA). Hydraulic fracturing has a 60-year record of strong local and state regulation and has never – repeat, never – resulted in a single instance of groundwater contamination. The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) under Presidents Clinton and Bush, the Groundwater Protection Council and the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission concluded that this practice is environmentally safe.

kj

Permalink Reply by sesport on June 27, 2010 at 19:54

king john - If you're implying that you agree with something that the POTUS did in his past life, ummm, watch your back. Someone might be along any minute to beat you down into submission ... just sayin'.

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Permalink Reply by king john on June 27, 2010 at 23:08

just pointing out facts...does that bother you ??? you should worry about your own back .... just sayin'.
squeak squeak squeak,
kj

Permalink Reply by king john on June 27, 2010 at 23:41

CLARIFICATION-
sesport, you should worry about your own back because you are the one who constantly seems to be under attack... you must enjoy it.
BTW- do you ever read past the first couple of sentences? seems to me you may be suffering from IDRTWT syndrome.
kj

Permalink Reply by sesport on June 28, 2010 at 0:29

king john - re. "...you are the one who constantly seems to be under attack."

Thanks for confirming what I thought I was surly mistaken about, that I was perhaps being overly sensitive. LOL!

Yes, I read, and reread, and read again. How about you?

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Permalink Reply by sesport on June 28, 2010 at 1:04

correction: "surly" should be "surely" I'm not the "surly" one around here. lol

Permalink Reply by sesport on June 28, 2010 at 0:33

No, no facts are great. I'm saving that one for the next time somebody gets on their soapbox about the POTUS being a nazisocialistcommiefacist (did I miss anything?) hater of the US. Thanks again for pointing it out. Somebody finally agrees that he isn't conspiring to undermine O&G industries.

Now, being that it's been 5 yrs. later and it's being pointed out that perhaps the EPA didn't do a thorough job, you'll agree that he's being smart enough again to urge that we take a look at that 2005 decision? LOL!

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Permalink Reply by king john on June 28, 2010 at 2:37

nice rant, do you feel better now?
squeak...
kj

Permalink Reply by essay on June 28, 2010 at 3:09

IT'S BUSH'S FAULT

there, now it is complete, and i feel happy, full, and satisfied.

Permalink Reply by king john on June 28, 2010 at 3:25

good job essay, i love full circles... i can go to sleep now.
kj

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