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Permalink Reply by jr on September 6, 2008 at 1:52

The messenger well has been flowing 3 million a day since being put in the line but over the past couple of days has been increased to 6 million. They are having to choke it back due to pipeline but will be able to increase flow rate eventualy.

Permalink Reply by Natch N3 on September 6, 2008 at 1:53

thanks jr..how do you know this?

Permalink Reply by jr on September 9, 2008 at 4:24

our family owns property near the well and has talked with some of the encana people involved with the well. I also have a friend who works for the conservation dept. I will be the first to say you can hear anything!! But I feel that this information is true.

Permalink Reply by Paw on September 9, 2008 at 13:51

Boy, I'll say.

Permalink Reply by Pat Todd, Jr. on September 10, 2008 at 4:08

Yes, there is nothing like trying to outguess what is going on, LOL. I went out to King Hill, Messenger on Saturday and they are building a very large compressor station where I said it looked to be another drilling site. So, another wrong guess by me. The good news is that building the station is good news. I have tried to confirm what has been posted about flow rates. The only info I have is that a store owner that the drillers hang out at told me that it was indeed a compressor station and that they are going to horizontal drill from the same location 3 ways. Hey, as you all know, can't be sure. I also heard from someone who has worked that area yesterday that they are going to re-frac the current well. All indications is that it is an excellent verticle well with a flow potential close to 6mcft day. If this is accurate, then it is a great well. There is no doubt that the entire area out there will be drilled by EnCana at some point and I believe the wells will be horizontal. But as we all know, that is a guess. My info was correct as they did go back for a re permit to go horizontal on the current well, but changed their mind. There is alot of land out there to drill and I understand that the capacity to process and transport the gas is not large enough. My source at their handgout says they are talking about adding to the crosstex pipeline. I also found out that XTO did not honor many of the promises of $12,900 per acre in and around Ajax and that there might be some legal activity surrounding that situation. Everyone hang in there, as this will be going on for years to come as seen in Fort Worth. I hear there is a meeting to come in Goldonna soon, but I don't know details.

Permalink Reply by Natch N3 on September 17, 2008 at 3:30

i checked sonris today..why, I have no idea. I suppose hoping that the "waiting on state potential" would be replaced by some update. You'd think after a month there would be something new on this well. I call BS.

Natch N3

Permalink Reply by Lrb2brnot2b on September 17, 2008 at 3:54

Pat tod replyed above about the compressor station . Just what does this do? Is it for pumping water to the frac? or pumping gas to the pipe line? Could it be an evoprator station and what does that do? I read a while back that Chespk had purchased 4 of these which cost millions. I guess I have too many questions but that's how you learn.

Permalink Reply by Lrb2brnot2b on September 17, 2008 at 3:59

I was just thinking the eveporator station might turn gas to a liquid or turn the cason head gas from liquid to gas before being piped out? anyone know?

Permalink Reply by Jack Spratt on September 17, 2008 at 17:15

Look here: http://www.naturalgas.org/naturalgas/processing_ng.asp#water

Permalink Reply by Natch N3 on September 22, 2008 at 5:23

does ANYONE know of the activity around the messenger well these days

Permalink Reply by Rick on September 23, 2008 at 4:32

Natch N3, I have tried to keep up with the Messenger well through this site even though I live in North DeSoto and I can understand the frustration you and others feel in trying to get information on this well.
As I search through Sonris, it is scary how many wells drilled into Haynesville zone are sitting there, drilled and waiting on WHATEVER the O&G's can use for an excuse. It is becoming even more painfully obvious that the big money these companies have pumped into the state offices in Baton Rouge carries much more clout than the generation upon generation of taxpaying landowners that have been in LA paying taxes and providing money to run these offices long before the current gas play came along.

Just a parish over from ya'll in Sabine, there is the Murray and the Olympia that have been completed and just as in Natch, about all anyone can get is rumors but in the meantime, landmen are running amuck down there grabbing land for $2000-4000 and less in some areas and using the same scare tactics that were used in Caddo and DeSoto just a couple of months ago. There in no doubt that is what the "waiting on completion" is about; they're waiting on completion alright, waiting on the landmen to completely blindside the landowners and achieve completion of the lowball land grab before they release figures that they know will cause the kind of lease amounts like the Elm Grove well caused when Petrohawk got excited and told what it can do; that was the landmark that jumped prices in Caddo and Bossier Parishes from $300 an acre to $25,000 an acre in less than a month.

And the really disgusting thing about it all is that the taxpayer supported LA Dept of Nat Res should be set up to look out for the landowners interest just as much or more than the Oil and Gas industries interest, but we see who keeps winning out in all this and it ain't the landowner in most cases. It's a joke and a slap in the L/O face for these O&G's to be able to do this and hide behind a state imposed fine of a minimum of $25 and a maximum of $100 according to state code LA RS 30:104. WHY would they report and cost themsevlves millions when the state will let them get by with doing it for practically nothing.

If nothing else is accomplished by this HS play, I hope that at least all these inadequacies in our state laws will be brought to the forefront and hopefully enough citizen/voter pressure will eventually lead to some changes in some of these codes so the landowners have some real protection; we should expect it and demand it from our LA DNR. Just my opionion!

Permalink Reply by Two Dogs, Pirate on September 23, 2008 at 5:14

Louisiana is far ahead of the other states with Sonris. Go to another state and try to find out what you have learned on Sonris. I commend the LA DNR for its work in development of the best O&G reporting website in the USA. The pressure needs to be placed on the federal government to mandate the use of natural gas in automobiles just like it was done for ethanol. This will open the market for the product that we sit on a mountain of and lower the price at the pump. If the price of NG drops to $4.00 a thousand then it don't matter if the Messenger well will do 5 million or 20 million a day because they won't drill. NG producing states need new markets for the product they produce and the auto industry is the way to go.

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