Subject: RE: nat gas price trends-- LNG Exports will make Nat Gas a worldwide Commodity

--- here is my update and prediction of Nat Gas future and prices. Nat Gas will be in $3.00-$3.50 range most of 2013 and then very slowly increase as LNG exports starts in 2014-15(maybe sooner if we have a very cold winter again)  and then  by 2020 Nat Gas will see major activity with exports from Nat Gas rich producers like USA  and others will result in Nat Gas being able to be imported/exported  where ever the market needs (esp Japan and UK) and LNG will be the harmonizer to make NG a worldwide commodity just like crude oil  is today (oil-- It can be transported by pipeline, trucks, train, and ships—soon LNG by ships,etc). Prices will then stabilize in some type multiple of BTU with price of crude oil. If crude stay in $100 range then Nat Gas could easily be worldwide prices (like WTI or Brent 85-100) in the $8 -10 range+/- Lots of money can be made by all with these type prices. If We can get Obama out maybe sooner. Can you believe Obama  denied XOM permits to build LNG plants on  west coast to fulfill contract it has with Japan for Nat Gas.

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LNG prices ion Japan where as high as $16 in last year. Japan is looking for other providers to compete to drive prices lower as you say that new projects can deliver cheaper. The cost of shipping I understand has decreased in last 5 years.

Adubu, if you would have stayed on point you would have made fewer mis-statements.

 

By the way LNG has been traded internationally for 40+ years so not a new concept.

Les B---Yes I know LNG is not new concept and trades internationally for years. The reason US build LNG receiver site was because We were runing out of NG.(Then H drilling and fracking with shale changed that last two decades) We still receive about BCF or so each day we donot need but they are old contracts they have to be honored primary from Trinidad only now. It will only take time to build and extend the export ability. I never got off point with mis-statement just Gosh-Darn and few mis-read like Max and global warming and when his pipe last froze and GoshDarn fired out stupid comments and inapproiate insulting  words. Again My point LNG from USA to join world markets will be game changer in world market and stablize prices locally to higher avg just as crude oil is today since can be transported to markets that use it. JUST IMO ---Thanks for your comments and hope you enjoyed the thread post and gave you something to releif your boredon you a while. Look forward to next debate :)

I think there is more competition with ng in it's usage than with petroleum...which would keep it's price low or competitive...we don't have to have ng to produce electricity if it's not economical...we don't have to have ng for heating homes..we don't use it meaningfully for transportation..on the other hand..there isn't any meaningful alternative for transportation other than petroleum...the demand for petroleum is much more fierce...supplies are not as vast as ng ..ngis going to have to be used for more things than just putting ng on the world markets to get it's price up there with petroleum..

A genuine effort to use  ng for transportation would eventually put ng in direct competition with petroleum...that would shake the pricing game up for both commodities..

I don't see anything else getting ng prices up unless fracking becomes outlawed for some reason with what it's being used for now..

PG--- your comments on NG usage is correct for our local USA market but not world wide for many countries NG is primary transportation fuel--- if we can get ability to export LNG then that will increase our market demand. I may have been wrong on my dates-- yes will be 2016-17 before exports truely happen and then only couple plants that the company of LNG (Cheniere)has premits to contruct( Sabine Pass in Camereon, La.)-- we need more and will happen in time. The primary stimulate for increase prices back towards $5 by 2015 will be decrease in rigs and drilling in Dry Gas plays field untill Exports and world market forces come into play in years 2017 forward

This article is year old but makes my point a little clearer

United States Moves Toward LNG Exports

by Tony D’Altorio, Investment U Research Wednesday, June 8, 2011

Just a few short weeks ago, the natural gas market saw a jump up in prices to 10-month highs. The reason for this sudden jolt higher was the announcement that the United States had authorized its first big export project for liquefied natural gas (LNG).

The U.S. Department of Energy authorized Cheniere Energy (AMEX: LNG) to export LNG from its Sabine Pass terminal. Sabine Pass is the largest of nine LNG import facilities in the United States.

Cheniere Energy plans to retrofit the import terminal for liquefaction capabilities. Construction is set to begin in 2012 and the production is expected to come online in 2015.

The company already has preliminary deals in place to supply LNG to companies globally, including Spanish utility Endesa and Japanese trading company Sumitomo.

An LNG Milestone for the United States

This LNG export project marks a milestone. It’s a big step toward the globalization of natural gas markets and will put the United States into direct competition with other LNG exports including Russia, Qatar and Australia.

Natural gas trading currently occurs in separate markets around the globe. That is, there’s no one unified global price for natural gas. Markets remain isolated due to a lack of infrastructure uniting them.

In the United States, for example, prices are based mainly on daily settlements at Henry Hub, a Louisiana pipeline nexus.

In much of continental Europe and Asia, natural gas is sold at a percentage of oil prices under multi-year contracts. So the recent rise in crude oil prices has been painful for utilities in these regions locked into oil-linked supply deals.

The difference between the markets is striking. Henry Hub gas costs less than $5 per million BTU. Meanwhile, the benchmark for East Asia is more than $13 per million BTU, according to data from Platts.

The Rise of Liquefied Natural Gas Reverberates Globally

The rising flow of LNG globally is slowly beginning to bring together these disparate gas markets.

Exports of liquefied natural gas are already having an effect on gas prices in Europe. An influx of LNG and depressed demand have pushed down spot prices on the continent.

This is giving utilities the muscle to renegotiate long-term natural gas contracts linked to oil prices.

The giant Russian gas supplier, Gazprom OAO (PINK: OGZPY), has now agreed to link some sales to spot prices. But 69 percent of natural gas sold in continental Europe is still linked to oil, according to Societe Generale. So change is occurring at a snail’s pace.

The prospects of increased LNG exports from the United States and elsewhere will be music to the ears of east Asian utilities who are still tied, for the most part, to those oil-linked contracts.

Japan, in particular, could use the relief. This country is the world’s largest LNG importer. And its demand for gas is expected to increase even further following its nuclear disaster.

However, the prospect of natural gas exports to pricier markets in Asia has not been uniformly welcomed in the United States.

A Leveling of Natural Gas Prices?

Both utilities and industrial companies claim the Cheniere project will lead to higher domestic natural gas prices.

The head of trading at energy trading firm Mercuria, Daniel Jaeggi, agrees with that assessment. He said, “The United States is the cheapest gas producer in the world right now. But the difference between long-term prices for U.S. natural gas and LNG to Asia is going to start to narrow from now on.”

Morgan Stanley also agrees. It’s estimated that North American LNG export capacity may exceed six billion cubic feet per day. This is about 10 percent of the current U.S. daily production of 60 billion cubic feet per day of natural gas. It expects the ramp-up of LNG exports to ease the current poor price environment for gas producers in North America. In other words, natural gas prices will go up.

In reality, LNG exports will simply be getting natural gas pricing back to more normal levels.

The ratio of Brent crude oil to Henry Hub gas touched a record of more than 31-to-1 on April 8. The average during the past decade is about 10-to-1. So a higher natural gas in the United States will just be a return to normalcy.

The Long-Term Outlook for LNG

Exports of LNG from the United States will help not only Cheniere, but also companies involved in U.S. natural gas production such as Chesapeake Energy (NYSE: CHK).

However, the relief may not last for long…

As natural gas prices rise in the United States, exports will become less competitive. That’s because the United States is at a competitive disadvantage when it comes to LNG logistics.

It simply costs more to transport LNG on ships from the United States to Asia than from Australia… or from Russia to Europe via pipelines.

So for investors in Cheniere and other stocks looking to benefit from a projected LNG export boom, remember – don’t stay at the party too long.

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