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Permalink Reply by tim burton on April 20, 2015 at 7:13

I manage lands in the Rusk/Panola county line area and have been contacted for survey permission concerning this project. This is suppose to be a small (maybe 10" or 12") crude oil pipeline. It has been an on and off again project, but I believe they are seriuos about building it this time. We have not discussed any price/damages terms. I think I remember them asking for a 30' - 50' permanent r-o-w.

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Permalink Reply by JHH on April 20, 2015 at 11:46

Yes... it's a 12" oil pipeline... but we've had no serious offer through our property in Panola County.  Plains said it would send a proposal package but our family has received nothing so far.  Would like to hear about any price per rod people are being offered.

Here's the article about the pipeline in the Tyler Paper.

 http://www.tylerpaper.com/TP-Business/216650/new-100m-pipeline-to-h...

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Permalink Reply by JHH on April 20, 2015 at 11:48

Where is the Plains oil terminal in Shreveport.  At the Calumet plant on Jewella?

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Permalink Reply by JTM on April 26, 2015 at 11:21

I received a letter with a standard contract containing a $225.00 per rod offer. Property is in Caddo Parish.  We have a ways to go at this point. Still early. My understanding is the terminal is on Ellerbe Road.

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Permalink Reply by JHH on April 26, 2015 at 15:31

Should be some interesting negotiating days ahead.  Seems we got the same offer.  I can't find a tank farm on Ellerbe road other than one owned by Exxon.

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Permalink Reply by JTM on April 27, 2015 at 6:44

I was contacted about the pipeline previously but it was put on hold. The landman at that time told me the pipeline would be for crude oil and it was going to the tank farm owned by Exxon on Ellerbe Road as you mentioned. This may or may not be accurate but appears to fall in line with the proposed right of way. The price per rod needs to more than double for serious consideration.  

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Permalink Reply by Bacon on April 27, 2015 at 6:41

Good luck to all on your negotiations. We've gotten as much as $500 a rod for 10" gas lines and 30' perm ROW in rural Red River parish.

I am wondering if you all received offers before or after you gave permission for a survey? Thanks.

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Permalink Reply by JTM on April 27, 2015 at 6:46

After permission for the survey.

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Permalink Reply by JHH on April 27, 2015 at 11:42

After survey.  Question... does it matter if the offer was made after the survey?

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Permalink Reply by Joe Aldridge on April 28, 2015 at 0:46

I think the offer always follows the survey. They have to know what they are dealing with before an offer can be made.

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Permalink Reply by Bacon on May 13, 2015 at 2:02

Thanks for the info. I was thinking that once they do the survey, your locked in and they pretty much dictate the rate and terms to a certain extent. Since I posted last, I saw where a pipeline company had gone to court under imminent domain to get the survey crew on the property so maybe it doesn't matter and they get on there one way or the other.

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Permalink Reply by Michael Allen on May 18, 2015 at 6:10

Two different issues in your comment. If the landowner does not allow survey and the pipeline company has eminent domain power, they can use the court to issue a TRO (Temporary Restraining Order) that will allow survey of the pipeline route and the associated environments and cultural studies. After that, the pipeline company will come back to the landowner and make an offer to buy an easement based upon the length and width of the easement, plus any additional temporary work space for construction. If the landowner refuses to negotiate or counter offers with a ridiculous amount, the company can move forward with eminent domain. Any landowner that really desires to the pipeline route moved for whatever reason except the NIMBY reason, should open negotiations during the survey time frame. The landowner can discuss the reasons for moving one way or another and if the reasons are legit, then 9 times out of 10, the company will move. Most pipeline companies will accept the landowner reason to slide the center line somewhat, if there are good reasons involved. Once the survey is completed, then the route is locked into the route. 

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