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Permalink Reply by king john on October 23, 2009 at 9:10

red, i would think a lake full of salvina would hinder their operations. i wouldnt think they would want the plant in their frac water. i may be wrong , but i would think the water would need to be debri free.
kj

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Permalink Reply by Greedy Landowner on October 24, 2009 at 9:13

This is off the topic, but how is the fishing on pinkston lately? Years ago it was ringed with hydrilla and was full of fish. Is it the same now?

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Permalink Reply by king john on October 25, 2009 at 15:27

i havent fished pinkston in years. i know it used to be a great lake to fish in. a family friend caught a state record bass out of there about 15 or 20 years ago. i will ask around when im up there and let you know.
kj

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Permalink Reply by Greedy Landowner on October 26, 2009 at 11:23

Thanks a bunch. I would hate to drive all that way and find it horrible. I used to have a blast fishing it.

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Permalink Reply by Red Fuller on October 23, 2009 at 15:53

I'm sure you are right but all it takes one little piece to get it started. With all this talk about who owns the water it is on your land it is your water. They have to come across your land to get it. It is on your land so it is yours ask for what ever you think is a reasonable price plus the right for them to pipe it out. It is a pipeline isn't it. They need it so they should pay for it. All you have to do is figure out a fair and reasonable price where all can live with it. Just cover you butt on all things. Talk to a lawyer who knows what he is talking about. Maybe someone on this site can direct you to a good lawyer. Me personally I don't know of any. Ask around I think that was what you were wanting in the first place when you posted this question. Good luck stick to your guns but be like the willow not the oak, bind with the wind get something instead of nothing but don't get screwed.

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Permalink Reply by king john on October 28, 2009 at 0:23

thanks again to all who have participated in this discussion. there have been many intresting view points shared. while i know ideas and opinions shared here are not a replacement for legal advice, they do however provide some direction and insight. once again proving what a valuable resource GOHAYNESVILLESHALE.COM is to land owners. i hope the industry guys and gals get as much out of it as we do.
with that said, my meeting this week was cancled due to weather. i do have some additional information, some of which is disturbing, while some is not.
i have been told that they would like to drill 5-6 water wells as a suplemental water source to this lake.
they will select a location where there would be no capture of any running water, including natural draws.
there would be 10 inch temp. water lines run across my property, only for the duration of the frac. job.
the lenght of time for the project and use is unknown.

kj

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Permalink Reply by The_Baron on October 28, 2009 at 2:57

they will select a location where there would be no capture of any running water, including natural draws.

You are right, this is very disturbing. This means when they are through the pond will not refill by itself.

Also be aware, DNR is cracking down on landowners filling ponds with water from water wells.

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Permalink Reply by Skip Peel - Mineral Consultant on October 28, 2009 at 3:15

kj. The DNR encourages operators to avoid the use of water wells but does not prohibit or restrict the practice. 5 or 6 water wells on your property may have an adverse although somewhat temporary affect on existing water wells in the immediate and surrounding area.

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Permalink Reply by intrepid on October 28, 2009 at 5:42

kj,

What Baron said would be disturbing to me because since the lake would not refill by itself then it might be that you would be left with a big, occasional, mud hole.

Have they discussed restoration after they complete operations?

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Permalink Reply by DJG on October 28, 2009 at 6:29

KJ,

What kind of $$$ are they talking? Seems like the potential long-term damage and/or eyesore (if pipes above ground) would hardly be worth the +/- $5K (likely) that they would offer?

I like the idea of them digging and stocking a lake for you, but wonder just how fun it will be grillin' up your catch if they all end up having three eyes or something? LOL.

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Permalink Reply by king john on October 28, 2009 at 22:45

i have been assured that the lake would be for fresh water sourcing only, and the contract will state that. my primary concerns are with the suplemental water wells and the lake not being able to self sustain itself upon completion of the project. i did review a couple of potential locations with the land man and he was less concerned with natural runoff than he was before. when they told me they wanted to drill 5-6 water wells to supplement the water supply of the lake, that was a deal changer to me. i fear in the event of a drought, and the lake pinkston people stop selling water, then my water wells could suddenly become the primary water source. my fear is that the aquafier would be damaged, and mine and my neighbors water wells could run dry. as far as the lake being in a location where it can capture natural runoff... it will be a requirment.
when i first started considering this lake idea, it sounded great... but as you all can see there are many things to consider. i believe in the future we will see more and more of these types of lakes being built.
kj

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Permalink Reply by king john on October 28, 2009 at 22:52

BTW- once the location is selected, an engineering firm would then come in to confirm the location and conduct an enviromental impact study before any construction would begin.
kj

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