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landownerPermalink Reply by sesport on April 13, 2010 at 15:32

Les!!! Charts & graphs!!! Thanks! BTW, the language in this presentation seems a little strong in bias against coal. Have the "playas" decided it's time to stop pussyfooting around and to just go for the jugular? In terms of finally being heard, that might just be a "phat" move, IMO. 80)

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Oil & Gas ProPermalink Reply by Les Bamburg on April 13, 2010 at 16:19

Sesport, I think the natural gas players have finally put their big boy pants on as they realize they are taking on the 800 lb gorilla (coal).

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landownerPermalink Reply by sesport on April 13, 2010 at 18:24

So, I'm thinking coal producing states should probably start looking for economic development replacements if they don't want to end up like Detroit. The list of ng teammates in that presentation is quite long and not without it's own gorillas. Works for me as I believe it's high time we deserve to reap the benefits of energy/economic development again.

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landownerPermalink Reply by DJG on April 13, 2010 at 19:00

Glad to see the that there is actually a pro-active stance in adressing the coal debate in that "Shale Gas and America's Future" presentation. Finally taking a position with some - as we say here in Tejas - cojones.....

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landownerPermalink Reply by Spring Branch,mineral owner on April 13, 2010 at 23:52

That was/is an awesome presentation. Finally the natural gas industry is getting some teeth! Other than jobs, I don't see how anyone can intelligently argue for coal. Chesapeake needs to hand deliver a copy of the presentation to every congressman/woman in the country.

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Oil & Gas ProPermalink Reply by The_Baron on April 14, 2010 at 8:10

Coal is Cheap. Thats the arguement. Although, I would rater burn gas.

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landownerPermalink Reply by sesport on April 15, 2010 at 18:21

i agree, coal is cheap ... on the front side of costs, mostly as it trickles down to consumers. Just have to wonder what the costs will be in the long term, though. As for job replacements, have to wonder whether coal states might benefit from looking into building/diversifying their economic bases by developing industries that will support cogen & renewable energy & manufacturing industries.

The costs of power will be going up regardless as the demands on the grids increases with all the gadgets & thingys needing to be plugged in, as the population increases.

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Oil & Gas ProPermalink Reply by The_Baron on April 16, 2010 at 4:29

You can't ingnore the other potentials for coal. Right now there are technologies in place, some since WWII (the nazis needed alternatives to oil since we took out their Romanian oil fields) for the gassification and/or liqufication of coal. Also coal is esential for coke production. Coal is not going away.

If we could ease the regulatory burden, Nuclear would be the better alternative to this wind nonesense. Coal could be phased out for power production, gas could be moved to transportation, and we will all live happily ever after.

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