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GSG Water Management Initiative

from time to time here on GHS we have had discussions on water issues from water marketing to the feasibility of pond construction to capture water. i am attending this confrence http://www.shale-gas-water-management.com/   in dallas next week to try to learn more about the industry's needs and plans  for water usage, treatment, and recycling.
if there are any of you who would like me to pay special attention to any of the topics being discussed at the conference, please let me know which ones and i will share what i am able to learn, here on GHS.
kj

Tags: frac, management, recycling, usage, water

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Permalink Reply by jffree1 on October 19, 2010 at 5:21
Thanks, KJ, for putting this conference on your schedule. I, for one, will be looking forward to your report. Water issues should concern all of us and a fortunate few will find themselves in a position to possibly profit from water sales, ROWs and such. I'm happy to hear you are attending.

Oil & Gas ProPermalink Reply by dbob on October 19, 2010 at 7:27
King John

Draft environmental flows regulations for the Sabiner River in Texas were posted as of October 15, 2010. The basic outcome appears to be a further restriction of surface water availability from the State of Texas. I'd love to know if anything is said about this topic.

Best regards

Dbob

landownerPermalink Reply by king john on October 20, 2010 at 9:50
Draft environmental flows regulations for the Sabiner River in Texas...got dbob. i was looking over the topics being covered and i think this should fall under a couple of them. if i have the opportunity i will ask specifically in the Q&A session.
kj

landownerPermalink Reply by Keith Mauck (Site Publisher) on October 20, 2010 at 10:57
I'd lke to hear a little bit about recycling & biodegradable technology and the costs involved.
Permalink Reply by jffree1 on October 20, 2010 at 12:21
I think that's pretty important, too. How much water do they think can be recovered and used again in another frack (there's that word again) job?

Oil & Gas ProPermalink Reply by dbob on October 20, 2010 at 14:12
The initial flow back is generally going to be fresh and potentially re-usable, but with caution: you don't want to put it into a frac pond that is also used for wildlife/fishing/livestock due to the additives that might be present. If you've got a dedicated storage reservoir, great, otherwise probably a non starter.

The later stages of flowback are more likely to be saltly and not directly suitable for re-use. You'll either need to run reverse osmosis or distillation on it, which is energy intensive, or dillute it with freshwater.

Most of the haynesville/bossier shale are only flowing back 25-40% of the frac water, most of which will be salty. net with the current state of recycling, it probably only makes sense to recycle 10-15% of the total frac volume. Most operators aren't doing that due to the logistical difficulty. In areas of the country with less water availability and/or lower TDS in the flowback, recycling is more practical.

Also, many reservoir/frac engineers are reluctant to move water from one well to another for fear of causing fouling problems.

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