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Permalink Reply by GoshDarn on July 11, 2012 at 5:48

Keith:

Unsure about the word "war" -- along with the associated complexity as to whom is actually doing what in regards to the powerful "dirty coal" lobby in D.C.

Nevertheless, most of us know that the less acid-rain dirty coal that is used to spin the electrical-generating grid turbines in the U.S. of A. (and the increase in power plants which do proceed to convert to the more environmentally-friendly "clean-burning" NG) . . . then that apples-vs.-apples commodity equation is simply a "supply and demand" scenario which will serve to help stabilize the higher hub price that royalty owners will be paid for their NatGas.

GD

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Permalink Reply by Keith on July 11, 2012 at 6:10

Obama's EPA is arranging a defacto Cap and Trade system because he couldn't push it through congress. Below is his words on what people in coal country call a "war on coal". I'm going to take the President at his word and I think the EPA's regulations will help nat gas and oil prices unless he turns his attention to those energy sources.

Obama said: “Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Even regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad.” He went on to explain: “So, if somebody wants to build a coal plant, they can — it’s just that it will bankrupt them.”

 

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Permalink Reply by w.r. frank on July 11, 2012 at 6:55

Keith, can you give a credible source of your quote that BO said "under my plan of a cap and trade, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket."

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Permalink Reply by Keith on July 11, 2012 at 7:34

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4

 

 

Maybe Obama himself could be my credible source.

Don't  think that I care a lick about coal or the areas that produce it. I'm even in a position just as many on this forum to gain from this "war on coal". I am concerned that the "war on coal" could spread to other energy and that this EPA could grow it's power even more in a way that does adveresly affect my family. Maybe the government's full scale attack on fracking isn't too far off in the future, that would suck.  I've even heard that they want to regulate road side ditches as wetlands. Come one now!

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Permalink Reply by RONNY on July 11, 2012 at 7:59

"Will Obama's war on coal help Nat Gas prices?"

Yes, but not enough to change my vote.  Regarding your statement on frack attack....Maybe fracking could become a state rights issue.  I bet Louisiana and Texas would be "frack friendly"  If only two states allowed fracking,  now that would help Nat gas prices.

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Permalink Reply by Keith on July 11, 2012 at 11:04

I don't think this current president cares too much about states rights.

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Permalink Reply by w.r. frank on July 11, 2012 at 8:07

Thanks a lot. Stupid use of "skyrocket." Most of old projections on McCain Lieberman cap and trade did not show a skyrocketing electricity price as carbon pricing was phased in. I share your fear on fracking, but think we have no choice but to have industry work with government to make it safe and produce the energy.

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Permalink Reply by Bill R on July 11, 2012 at 8:50

The EPA and DEQ here in Oregon are already regulating roadside ditches, groundwater runoff and low land areas that have standing water for more than 5 weeks as 'Wetlands' and it is hurting a lot of people. In order to put a road through that will pass over one on these 'Wetlands' you may be required to build a new 'Wetland' to replace the one that you are covering. In the case of one person that I know, it ended up costing them $950,000 to put through a $200,000 road on their property. Back in the 70's we would have laided out some 6"- Pitrun rock, tossed down a few culvert pipes, topped it with some 3" - rock and called it good (that's what my 1/2 mile driveway was) and it worked fine, leaving free flowing water and 'Wetland' on both sides.

Hopefully this state of mind does not spread accross the whole country

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Permalink Reply by Keith on July 11, 2012 at 11:07

I figured out why our current administration is concerned about the nations ditches, they are looking for the economy.  

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Permalink Reply by adubu on July 11, 2012 at 13:00

Keith-- did you see his ( Obama) Presidential Exceuative order this afternoon-- he will take over control of the www WEB--- wonder if  he will controll your GoHaynesville site---

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Permalink Reply by Keith on July 11, 2012 at 13:02

Nope, I didn't see that Adubu.

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Permalink Reply by adubu on July 11, 2012 at 13:02

Sorry you wrong Keith

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