WEBSTER 01 244496 SMK C RB SUG;SANDERS HEIRS 001-ALT 23-FEB-12 X004 012-23N-09W 8246 SHONGALOO, NORTH-RED ROCK 12000

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Well drilled and logged on 4/18. Waiting on frack crew. TD 11,942. Rig moved to Formby well 1 mile west. Spudded last Friday. Drilling below 7,000 ft. today.

244791 SMK C RB SUH;HARDAWAY 001 30-APR-12 X004 013-23N-09W 8246 SHONGALOO, NORTH-RED ROCK 12000

Skip, Thanks for posting Hardaway location. This is just southeast of the well mentioned above.

Did you read location description of Hardaway location? Can you decipher? They show well to be  1008 ft. FSNL and 1029 FEL. They had well staked when I was there last week. 



I've never seen "FSNL" before, Aubrey.  I think it's a typo.  The plat submitted with the permit application should be available soon on SONRIS Classic.

Thanks, Skip. I presumed typo also. Doesn't look like it matters much whether FNL or FSL. I don't think it makes too much difference as to drainage from our unit. At least our well is updip from Hardaway well. Certainly not to the extent of drainage we have experienced from Sanders D-2 to the west.

Mr. Sanders:

It is a typo.  Permit plat on Sonris shows 1008 FSL.  Can you explain what you mean by updrip from Hardaway well?  Where do you find that information?  Appears your well is about 2,200 feet from Hardaway well so how does your well impact it or vice versa.  Thanks.

Updip refers to relative elevations of 2 points. For example, say you know

elevation of two points at top of Smackover formation. Elevation of point A is

-11,000 ft (mean sea level) and point B has elevation of -11,100 ft. Point A is updip  of point B, it being 100 ft. higher than Point B. Elevation sources include geologic contour maps, well logs, geophysical data etc.

Since hydrocarbons migrate to highest elevations it can, before being trapped due to geologic structure.

 The best and highest rates of production  are generally from wells at highest points on a geologic structure. Since hydrocarbons migrate from lower areas on a structure to higher points as production occurs the updip wells tend to drain downdip areas.. Generally it is estimated that one well in Smackover  C can drain products from a 900 to 1500 ft. radius. The Hardaway well will not impact upon Sanders Heirs well.























Skip, I am from Texas and my family has some land between Springhill and Shongaloo.  I know what the parcel #'s are, and have complete surveys of our land.  I know where the land is, but am having trouble figuring out what you guys are talking about.  How does LA do their maps?  Is the state divided into townships, and each township into sections, and what is a range??  The well you talked about is in Section 12, Township23n Range 9w.  I have found it on Google Earth, (using long/lat.), but how do can I pinpoint it with just the legal description?

Thanks in advance for your help



Yes to section-township-range for your part of LA.  Townships are designated from an established meridian.  The first township to the west of that line is Range 1 West.  The first east, Range I East.  Townships are numbered north and south of a meridian in the same manner, 1 North, 2 North, 1 South, 2 South etc..  We often drop the T and the R as they are a given and simply write, S12 -23N - 9W.   You can get more information on the system by using this link,


IMO, the best map of finding locations by s-t-r for Louisiana is The Roads of Louisiana, Updated and Improved available from Mapsco.  Last one I bought was $19.95.  You can order one at their website.

Alan, the well you mentioned is on my land on Sand Hill Rd.

Is your family land leased yet? I don't know how much land your family owns but am familiar with location of some of the lands in general area between Shongaloo and Dorcheat bayou. I know a lot of people have recieved offers,   in cluding Rodney Martin, I think. Any of your relatives living in area can likely tell you where our land and well is located. 4 miles east of Old Shongaloo on Sandhill Rd. and 1 mile west of Claiborne Parish line. 

Our land consists of two forty acre tracts and is on the other side of Dorcheat bayou (it actually backs up to Dorcheat) off of King Orchard Road.  No, it is not leased, and no one has contacted us.  If you have been around Shongaloo a long time, you probably knew my grandad, Lum Martin.  Hopefully, somebody will take an interest in it soon.




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