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Permalink Reply by sesport on December 19, 2008 at 17:12

Intrepid - last news is that they have until March to come up with reorganization plans, and one isn't expected to make it.

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Permalink Reply by sesport on December 19, 2008 at 17:51

"Moreover, it is not consumer n.g. cars that's going to put a significant enough upward pressure on n.g. demand. It's got to be fleet vehicles"

I said it before, I'llsay it again, start with the school buses. Caddo operates about 500 buses that cover 889 sq. mi. per day. Get them to use OUR tax dollars to make the switch.

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Permalink Reply by Skip Peel - Mineral Consultant on December 19, 2008 at 18:12

Agree, Jim. A CNG as a vehicle fuel demonstration project centered on Shreveport-Bossier and eventually connecting through E. TX. to DFW and OK City. Future expansion to Tulsa, Little Rock and Jackson, MS.

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Permalink Reply by sesport on December 19, 2008 at 18:52

The consumers will also need incentives. I found this incentive package for Con Ed, but can't find any incentives offered by CenterPoint. Seems if CP wanted more business, they'd be more consumer friendly with incentives.

Under the "How Can I Receive Incentives?", go to the "click here" link to see their chart.

http://www.getenergysmart.org/MultiFamilyHomes/ConEdGas.aspx

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Permalink Reply by Les Bamburg on December 20, 2008 at 5:41

Sesport, I would recommend you contact the Louisiana Public Service Commission and lobby for the incentives. Because the program cost will be recovered in Centerpoint's rates, the LPSC would need to approve. Many programs are being implemeneted in California that encourage greater use of natural gas including NGV's & plug-in hybrid electrical vehicles.

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Permalink Reply by intrepid on December 20, 2008 at 17:12

Jim, I agree that is agood place to start.

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Permalink Reply by Skip Peel - Mineral Consultant on December 19, 2008 at 18:04

True. But some of us would consider going over to CNG for our personal transportation needs. Imagine pulling up behind a vehicle at a traffic light and reading a decal that says, "I Got The GAS! This vehicle fueled by natural gas." Spread the word. And build demand.

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Permalink Reply by Skip Peel - Mineral Consultant on December 20, 2008 at 0:41

I agree Jim. There should be federal and state incentives available for anyone who invests in technology that lowers emissions, conserves energy and reduces our demand for crude oil and/or coal. Those tax credits should cover the purchase of a new CNG vehicle, the conversion of an existing vehicle and the cost of installing a home filling unit. The industry should participate by initially making at least one CNG fueling station available In every city with a population greater than 50,000 people within the region of the demonstration project. Thus providing the capability of driving a CNG vehicle for distances greater than 200 miles. When gasoline goes back to $3 or more a gallon and CNG vehicles are fueling at $0.80 to $1.40 (Just my guesstimate based on what I have read), I think that consumers will be willing to purchase or convert. In fact, I think there may be significant interest and demand that will drive down the out of pocket costs of the consumer. And there will be a certain cachet and point of pride for those who drive a CNG vehicle. Dare I say, envy? As demand for CNG increases, private business may find opportunities to make a profit and competition will lower consumer costs further.

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Permalink Reply by Les Bamburg on December 20, 2008 at 5:44

Skip, try this website for fueling station locations:

http://www.afdc.energy.gov/afdc/stations/find_station.php

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Permalink Reply by Skip Peel - Mineral Consultant on December 20, 2008 at 5:52

Good point, Jim. Thanks for the link, Les.

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Permalink Reply by Bruce on December 20, 2008 at 20:45

Jim, Skip, Les you all make excellent points and point out details of plans that would make the cng industry grow in this country and create demand for our own energy supply here in nw la and across the country. We have just elected a new president and congress and our new congressman Dr. Fleming I'm sure would like to hear these ideas. Why not start a petition on this site(with Haynesville's permission) on specific ideas and goals for the cng industry and present it to Dr. Fleming? It would give him a major issue to take to Washington for the country and would also serve the interests of his constituents. Perhaps that way he could convince the energy committee to hear our ideas. What do you think guys?

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Permalink Reply by Skip Peel - Mineral Consultant on December 21, 2008 at 3:14

Bruce. I'm gratified to see that you are thinking along the lines of taking some action. Haynesville and I have discussed what appropriate lobby options might be of value. I think he is working on it and may already have a plan. He had a short blurb at the top of the Main Page, may still be there, that made me think he was planning to roll out such an effort in the new year.

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