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Permalink Reply by Stevew on June 2, 2011 at 19:22

Chevron may be positioning itself for good will bonuses.  My hunch is that companies who support open disclosures will be favored by contracts from governments around the world where shale gas is being developed.

The disclosure issue will not go away anytime soon.  No amount of wishing or griping is going to stop people from reasonable questions about what is going into the ground.

 

Very few here on GHS trusts Chesapeake or Petrohawk (or any other company) to be ethical with our checks. If you don't trust them with division orders why would you trust them on what they put into the ground?

 

(NOTE: I am not trying to slam CHK or HK. The Haynesville would not be where it is without these companies.  I hope Aubrey really has discovered the Holy Grail.  I just want to point out that if we exercise diligence with our checks then it only makes cents that we should also be diligent with how the well is operated. Hats off to Chevron for taking the stand it has)

 

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Permalink Reply by Max on June 3, 2011 at 2:10

Maybe it's time for a name change for the process of Fracking.  Call it 'Recovering Hydrocarbon Process' and that would take the sting out of the word that indicates you're breaking something that shouldn't be broken.

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Permalink Reply by P.G. on June 3, 2011 at 2:38

How about "Shale Rock Recycling" seeing how the term, recycling, seems to be what those tree huggers interested in...

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Permalink Reply by Max on June 3, 2011 at 2:47

Good one P.G.

 

Calling a grizzly bear a teddy bear is fine unless you're out of breath at the top of a tree and old grizz is chewing off your branch.

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Permalink Reply by Matt Hall on June 3, 2011 at 6:11

“The Sustainable Limestone Initiative”

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Permalink Reply by Bacon on June 3, 2011 at 3:42

It's all about "perception" and the anti-gas lobby has done a stellar job of spinning to their advantage.  The industry sticking to a "intellectual property" argument that has been a complete failure is laughable.  One reason that argument is such a failure is because it does not address the "needs" of their target audience (the public) at all.  The anti-gas folks, on the other hand, have attacked at the base of the "Human Needs Pyramid" (Physiology and Safety).  Pretty much a textbook case of one of the best ways to influence an outcome in your favor "They're killing your water source!".

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Permalink Reply by Jack Blake on June 3, 2011 at 12:27

Jack thinks Chevron is a stand up company.  He wishes they were the major oil company in the HS play, instead of Shell.

jackblake

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Permalink Reply by Two Dogs, Pirate on June 3, 2011 at 15:07

Don't get me wrong, I am not an expert on fracking but did read about dropping the sand at certain PH levels within the well bore. This, I would think would be a high level knowledge. Why would a company want to let this knowledge, that they spent millions on, be outed to the world? This was from research of the two majors that frac wells. The sand opens the cracks and keeps them open if it is placed in the right place.

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Permalink Reply by Max on June 4, 2011 at 3:02

Why would a company want to let this knowledge, that they spent millions on, be outed to the world?

 

Do they apply for a patent to protect their investment?  Would a time period go into an effect until others could make a generic?  What test must be passed before a 'patented product' is used without health side-effects to the public?

 

We had to use chemicals at my job and if you didn't follow the safety procedures that were recommended for that product, you would be held responsible, not only for yourself, but for anyone else who might be walking past the area.  Of course, most people will stay away from you if you're dressed in a monkey suit with supplied air.

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Permalink Reply by Two Dogs, Pirate on June 4, 2011 at 13:58

When has China ever respected a patent?

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Permalink Reply by P.G. on June 4, 2011 at 4:55

Wouldn't there be a difference between potential chemicals to be used versus exactly how they are used?

I mean they could list potential chemicals to be used in fracing without exact formulas and exact procedures..

I wouldn't think fracing would be as simple as say Kentucky Fried Chicken that uses 11 secret herbs and spices...

Of course now if they found a chemical composition that would cause the shale rocks to fizz or chemically break down, that might be something worth not disclosing..

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Permalink Reply by Max on June 4, 2011 at 8:59

P.G., old KFC is fighting their own battle and not with those 11 secrets herbs.  The battle they're fighting is about what happens after you fry that chicken leg.

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