Here is a fascinating article about the use of a propane gel rather than water for fracking. This is being done by a Canadian company called Casfrac http://www.gasfrac.com/
I would be interested to hear people's thoughts about using propane gel rather than water. The gel eliminates the disposal problems with water and the propane can be recaptured.
http://insideclimatenews.org/news/20111104/gasfrac-propane-natural-...
ALBANY, N.Y.—In the debate over hydraulic fracturing for natural gas, two facts are beyond dispute: Huge amounts of water are used to break up gas-bearing rock deep underground and huge amounts of polluted water are returned to the surface after the process is complete.
Tainted with chemicals, salts and even mild radioactivity, such water, when mishandled, has damaged the environment and threatened drinking water, helping fuel a heated debate in New York and other states over whether gas drilling is worth its risk to clean drinking water, rivers and streams.
Now, an emerging technology developed in Canada and just making its way to the U.S. does away with the need for water. Instead, it relies on a thick gel made from propane, a widely-available gas used by anyone who has fired up a backyard barbecue grill.
Called liquefied propane gas (LPG) fracturing, or simply "gas fracking," the waterless method was developed by a small energy company, GasFrac, based in Calgary, Alberta.
Still awaiting a patent in the U.S., the technique has been used about 1,000 times since 2008, mainly in gas wells in the Canadian provinces of Alberta, British Columbia and New Brunswick and a smaller handful of test wells in states that include Texas, Pennsylvania, Colorado, Oklahoma and New Mexico, said GasFrac Chief Technology Officer Robert Lestz.
Like water, propane gel is pumped into deep shale formations a mile or more underground, creating immense pressure that cracks rocks to free trapped natural gas bubbles. Like water, the gel also carries small particles of sand or man-made material—known as proppant—that are forced into cracks to hold them open so the gas can flow out.
Unlike water, the gel does a kind of disappearing act underground. It reverts to vapor due to pressure and heat, then returns to the surface—along with the natural gas—for collection, possible reuse and ultimate resale.
And also unlike water, propane does not carry back to the surface drilling chemicals, ancient seabed salts and underground radioactivity.
"We leave the nasties in the ground, where they belong," said Lestz.
David Burnett, a professor of petroleum engineering at Texas A&M University, one of the nation's premier petroleum engineering schools, said fracking with propane makes sense.
"From a reservoir engineering perspective, there is no reason this would not be effective," said Burnett, who runs the Environmentally Friendly Drilling Systems Program, a project of the university and the Houston Advanced Research Center, a not-for-profit academic and business consortium. Supported by some of the nation's largest energy companies, as well as by the New York State Energy Research and Development Authority, the drilling program seeks new technologies that develop gas and oil in a safe and environmentally friendly manner.
Burnett said using gas instead of water can serve two ends—protecting the environment and reducing costs to the drilling industry of handling and disposing of tainted water.
But he said propane fracturing is "not a game changer," at least not yet.
"This is a very conservative industry," Burnett said. "Engineers want to see what someone else did first, and they want the data." Most companies that have tried the GasFrac technique have not published data publicly, he said, possibly out of fear of tipping off potential competitors to its benefits.
Thanks two dogs. I missed those posts or was too new to recognize the significance of GasFrac's propane process. I will also be interested how it does in high clay shales.
A year ago you were interested in GasFrac's stock. Have you been following it? I am very interested in new technology developments in fracking and natural gas. There are a lot of creative, motivated people working on solutions to these problems. The GasFrac method is a closed system and recaptures everything right on site.
Below are a couple of threads from GHS about Gasfrac. Water is becoming a big, big issue in the drought areas of Texas and Louisiana not to mention the environmental issues around disposal of water.
http://www.gohaynesvilleshale.com/forum/topics/a-breakthrough-in-fr...
http://www.gohaynesvilleshale.com/forum/topics/declining-fresh-wate...
The EHS folks I've talked to don't want anything to do with it - the fire/explosion risk is seen as greater than with a water frac.
dbob, I found this - which sounds like the issue has been worked out. I did not find a much about fires or explosions in the quick search I did about propane fracking. This paragraph below is from a company that hauls sand for fracking in Penn. They have an interesting website (below).
It may be that propane fracking is impractical but I think they will be able to make it work. Water is going to be a growing concern - both the use and the disposal of it.
"Another issue with using propane is that its state has to be altered from a gas to a non-explosive gel. This is done by adding peroxides and other chemicals to the gas that help to make it a liquid. This liquid is a relatively stable compound, but there has been an incident where a fire has broken out at a site during a fracking procedure using propane. The investigation on the true cause is still underway at this time."
http://transloading.org/propane-fracking-is-a-good-alternative/
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