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Comment by Bosco Ritchie on October 5, 2011 at 3:39

yes, and with depth comes higher pressure and temp. We can handle the pressure but not the temp. depth increases to the south. A wild guess is that central Angelina may be a cutoff for horizontal drilling in the haynesville, however the bossier / cv is not limited by depth, pressure or temp (within reason), in my opinion. All eyes are on the Leor well and if that works, expect some strong leasing. How strong I do not know because gas prices are so bad. Drilling to hold acreage is real, but at some point it is putting good money after bad.

Comment by dbob on October 5, 2011 at 3:11

Some of the Haynesville drilling is currently being driven by the opportunity to hold multiple zones (Cotton Valley, James Lime, etc) depending on location.

Bosco, I know the pressure is trending higher on the Nacogdoches and Angelina County Haynesville as well. I haven't looked closely at depth but I think depth is increasing slightly as well.

Comment by Bosco Ritchie on October 5, 2011 at 3:00

In my opinion, one key limitation of the Haynesville is bottom hole temp. I think there may be a limit somewhere around central Angelina, where the downhole directional tools will fail. This will be overcome with technology in time, but it is a problem right now. The biggest problem is gas prices. very few of the Haynesville wells are making money at current gas prices and it is hard to drill based on hope that the futures are wrong.

Comment by Tom Cates on October 5, 2011 at 2:10

Thanks Bosco and dbob for the responses. We have seemed to be in kind of a gray area between James Lime/Travis Peak to the NW, Haynesville to the NE, and the action in Trinity and Houston. Like Dry Hole, I appreciate your taking time to help us stay informed.

Comment by Dry Hole on October 4, 2011 at 12:21

dbob, I would like to accept the offer you made to Tom as my area of interests at this time are in Houston Co. and I would like to stay well informed on the areas South of Hwy 7 on the western side of the county.  Thanks

Comment by Bosco Ritchie on October 4, 2011 at 11:37

Dry hole,

 

After fracking, it is important to flow the well back quickly to get as much fluid out to the well as possible, so generally the wells have surface facillities and piplelines hooked up so the well can be turned to sales as soon as the gas cut gets high enough. After they are turned to sales there will still be frack fluid produced for some time.

Comment by Bosco Ritchie on October 4, 2011 at 11:33

dbob, give me the abstract number where these SM wells are located and i will look into it.

Comment by Dry Hole on October 4, 2011 at 11:14

dbob, I am familiar with a new gas well in the Weches area that had a pipeline run to it before they were through drilling --- I said "you guys sure are confident" they said "no" "things can happen to a good well if it is not on line and flowing ASAP" --- my point is mechanical issues can result in bad things happening to good wells ---- I know this does not address the SM wells you refer to but never assume that "ALL" wells are dry holes just because they don't have any production records

Comment by dbob on October 4, 2011 at 10:47

Tom - 

 

I don't have any clients with interest in Trinity County/Houston County as of yet, so I'm more free to dig and discuss the topic than say if we were in a different area.  I've got some local roots and my hope is that I can educate some of those folks about what might happen in the area so they can make the best deals possible.  

Comment by dbob on October 4, 2011 at 10:44

Dry Hole/Bosco - a step further on the Saint Mary's wells - By lack of production, we can infer that either there wasn't significant gas /liquids in place, and/or they didn't hit natural fractures to allow sufficient flow.  

 

I understand that when drilling long laterals, they prefer to drill perpendicular to the natural fracture pattern thereby intercepting the most fractures possible.  The question then, is how does one find out the fracture pattern in a given area.  

 

Bosco - commenting on gas composition - I understand it changes a great deal based on the characteristics of the formation being tapped. 

 

Re 3 phase power - I looked into this for a client in Smith County a while back.  I seem to recall the local electric cooperative wanted something like $10 per linear foot of power line to lay it, assuming they didn't have to acquire or widen new ROW  - and that was based on the distance from their existing 3 phase power.  

 

I think you hit the nail on the head getting into gas treatment and pipeline capacity - there is comparitively more pipeline capacity in Houston and Madison County, with more proved reserves than Trinity - If I understand the term, Trinity County has not yet been de-risked/ reached the point at which significant capital investment for infrastructure to process and transport gas makes sense.  

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